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Darwinians Baffled that Students Refuse To Be Indoctrinated
Creation Evolution Headlines ^ | November 15, 2017 | David F. Coppedge

Posted on 11/15/2017 11:28:24 AM PST by fishtank

November 15, 2017 | David F. Coppedge

Darwinians Baffled that Students Refuse To Be Indoctrinated

Evolutionists have had complete domination of public school science for decades. They can’t believe that a sizable percentage still don’t accept evolution.

Ryan Dunk at Syracuse University is dumbfounded. He said on his blog last September,

Despite over a half century of education reforms aimed at better science instruction, nearly 40 percent of Americans reject the overwhelming scientific evidence for evolution.

In both articles, Dunk commits numerous logical fallacies and propaganda tactics as if taken right out of the NCSE talking points:

(Excerpt) Read more at crev.info ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
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1 posted on 11/15/2017 11:28:24 AM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

The Darwinians are looking somewhere, somewhere, somewhere for a final solution.

2 posted on 11/15/2017 11:29:57 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

They are going to be really baffled when Johnny rejects pervert “genderism.”


3 posted on 11/15/2017 11:35:06 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800><p><h1>NYC 9-11 Memorial 09/11/2016</h1>)
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To: fishtank

Explain how many billions of years it would take to evolve the intricacies of the separate male and female reproductive systems to the point where a baby, with a genetic combination of both parents, would result. If one minor anomaly occurs in either system, infertility results.

This planet would have remained empty.


4 posted on 11/15/2017 11:36:47 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: fishtank

“nearly 40 percent of Americans reject the overwhelming scientific evidence for evolution”

If something has “overwhelming scientific evidence”, you shouldn’t care whether people accept or reject it. Nobody cares if laymen believe in gravity, or electricity, or quantum physics, etc. The only things they really worry about convincing the yokels about are things that carry a political agenda.


5 posted on 11/15/2017 11:39:26 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: fishtank

40% reject evolution?

Or 40% refuse to reject God?


6 posted on 11/15/2017 11:41:43 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: fishtank

On a semi-related them to this article, you all might want to check out this article by Steyn. https://www.steynonline.com/8252/many-a-slip-twixt-k-cup-and-lip In it, Steyn refers to a speech given by Adam J. MacLeod…. a law professor at Faulkner University in Montgomery. It very much seems like those who didn’t swallow the crap that is evolution were sitting in MacLeod’s class. The MacLeod speech is very good and should be mandatory reading by every high school student…. especially those who are just going to university. And perhaps even more importantly, it needs to be read by their teachers.

The topic of the speech is essentially ‘reason’ or the lack thereof… and ‘how to reason one’s way through the issues of life’ as opposed to just swallowing the prescribed liberal line on everything. The premise of the speech is that MacLeod had got to the point in his career where he noticed that the new students coming in were essentially incapable of reason.

You can find MacLeod’s opening remarks and his full speech at this link…

http://newbostonpost.com/2017/11/09/undoing-the-dis-education-of-millennials/


7 posted on 11/15/2017 11:42:17 AM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: Boogieman
"If something has “overwhelming scientific evidence”, you shouldn’t care whether people accept or reject it. Nobody cares if laymen believe in gravity, or electricity, or quantum physics, etc. The only things they really worry about convincing the yokels about are things that carry a political agenda."

Bingo.

I worked in a very "sciency" science all my life and the issue never came up. Evolution as currently presented is only relevant in a very narrow group of studies. The bulk of scientific inquiry and development is concerned with nature as it is at this moment since that's what we have to deal with daily.

The idea that you have to uncritically accept this theory in order to master enough science to save a life, fly to Mars, or work in theoretical math or physics is absurd. Heck, you don't need it to identify and classify ancient organisms.
8 posted on 11/15/2017 12:05:42 PM PST by Gingersnap
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To: fishtank
There is something really wrong with scientists who worry about whether or not people accepted their theories.

The near-university reliability of the scientific fact that the normal temperature of the human body is 98.6 degrees is not debated by anyone I can find.

But an animal sat down and decided he needed an eye when he had never seen anything, and so it evolved with an eye?
9 posted on 11/15/2017 12:05:49 PM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: fishtank

I am not a scientist but I think there is clear evidence of adaptation of animals, plants and people to conditions they find. The argument I have is making the assumption that adaptation proves evolution as a foundation of all biological life. It does not. This would be like arguing that because wind plays a role in geology it is the sole influence in geology.


10 posted on 11/15/2017 12:10:22 PM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Boogieman
If something has “overwhelming scientific evidence”, you shouldn’t care whether people accept or reject it. Nobody cares if laymen believe in gravity, or electricity, or quantum physics, etc. The only things they really worry about convincing the yokels about are things that carry a political agenda.

Absolutely correct. macroevolution conflicts with the real world. Complexity does not occur gradually. There are not a series of steps involved in the development of te human brain, or a genome. The complexity must be in place from its inception for the complex to exist.

The components of a double helix cannot exist in isolation or by gradual development. They are interdependent for their existence. Children understand this because they look at the world. Ideologues do not look at the world, only at their fantasies.

11 posted on 11/15/2017 12:18:43 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: Boogieman
If something has “overwhelming scientific evidence”, you shouldn’t care whether people accept or reject it. Nobody cares if laymen believe in gravity, or electricity, or quantum physics, etc. The only things they really worry about convincing the yokels about are things that carry a political agenda.

Absolutely correct. macroevolution conflicts with the real world. Complexity does not occur gradually. There are not a series of steps involved in the development of te human brain, or a genome. The complexity must be in place from its inception for the complex to exist.

The components of a double helix cannot exist in isolation or by gradual development. They are interdependent for their existence. Children understand this because they look at the world. Ideologues do not look at the world, only at their fantasies.

12 posted on 11/15/2017 12:20:37 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: caseinpoint

Don’t waste time with Creative Science types.

Facts bother them and interfere with their digestion.

No one can possibly look at the facts of biology and paleontology and not acknowledge that evolution of the body is a reality. Its perfectly possible to reconcile that idea with belief in God and the Bible, but these people have an inability to see the forest for the trees on this subject.


13 posted on 11/15/2017 12:39:14 PM PST by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: fishtank

“the overwhelming scientific evidence for evolution.”

Puh-leeeze.


14 posted on 11/15/2017 12:44:17 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: fishtank

Evolutionary theory isn’t just a single idea, but a whole flock of ideas. And many of these ideas are not objectionable, while many of them are.

In a manner of speaking it is like the “Man Made” Global Warming argument. If you object to the idea that it is “Man Made”, they attack you for denying “Global Warming”. No, I can accept the idea that global warming might exist. It is the man made part of it I question.

For example, an important part of evolutionary theory is natural selection. It can be seen in sporting events, marriage, and even in religious faith where the good are rewarded for their good behavior with good and healthy lives; whereas those who engage in bad and wicked behavior live shorter lives stricken with disease and misery.

Of course, it is not always clear cut, in that many virtuous people suffer a lot, while wicked people seemingly prosper.

But over many generations, the good people seem to do better, which is natural selection in a nutshell.

At the same time, a more objectionable concept is the evolution of species from simple lifeforms to very complex ones. And that is where the great conflict lies within that theory. Complexity from haphazard generation seems impossibly hard, compared to the idea of intelligent design.


15 posted on 11/15/2017 12:52:51 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Hitlers Mein Kampf, translated into Arabic, is "My Jihad")
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To: txrefugee

Explain how many billions of years it would take to evolve the intricacies of the separate male and female reproductive systems to the point where a baby, with a genetic combination of both parents, would result. If one minor anomaly occurs in either system, infertility results.

This planet would have remained empty.
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One would have to explain how sex evolved, first off.


16 posted on 11/15/2017 1:28:28 PM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: fishtank

Gotta love it when the “scientists” claim “overwhelming evidence”.

What is overwhelming is the grant money and high-paying jobs that flow to “scientists” who spout the garbage they are told to spout.


17 posted on 11/15/2017 2:06:25 PM PST by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: fishtank
They can’t believe that a sizable percentage still don’t accept evolution.

If the case for evolution is so perfect (it isn't), and organisms evolved over millions of years to create our human species that is pretty much the perfect combination of features to survive and exist, then why should we care about freaks who can't just be a man or woman from birth? Liberals are hypocrites. Transgenders and homosexuals should be mutating to propagate new forms of themselves, but it isn't happening. Too many questions, and no real explanations.

18 posted on 11/15/2017 4:06:13 PM PST by roadcat
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To: caseinpoint

The adaptation is the utilization of existing info in the genome, not from the creation of new information.


19 posted on 11/15/2017 4:34:15 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Evolution is a big jpke almost as easy to debuke as the big bang, which is really easy to debunk


20 posted on 11/15/2017 4:47:38 PM PST by stockpirate (The GOPe and socialist friends do not fear Americans)
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