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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yeah right,

So we can give a free check to Mitch McConnell and let him choose?

Or give any other group of people already in the senate the power to keep and protect their status quo?

Elections are about change. If we are displeased with the current power structure in the senate we vote and change it,

So to the author of this article: No! Heck No!


6 posted on 11/17/2017 5:58:34 PM PST by Toughluck_freeper
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To: Toughluck_freeper

Mitch McConnell does not control the Kentucky State Legislature.


11 posted on 11/17/2017 6:02:48 PM PST by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!Jim robinson)
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To: Toughluck_freeper

It was the Seventeenth that gave us people like McConnell and his inordinate power; people like him wanted it. If not for that, he would have to represent his state and his state alone, and have zero power in DC.

There are lots more reasons to support the repeal of the Seventeenth than the one listed in the headline, and the one in the headline is not one at all. Not all Senators were appointed prior to the Seventeenth, furthermore. The Seventeenth got rid of our republic and pushed it closer to a “democracy”.


13 posted on 11/17/2017 6:03:08 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Toughluck_freeper

I have been getting bombarded over on Twitter with this crap. The only thing more screwed up than John McCain and Jeff Flake is the Arizona legislature.

Who in the world wants to give state capital elites the power to elect senators? Ours would just send McCain and Flake back forever. And we would have no way to remove them.

A constitutional amendment decided this, for crying out loud.


14 posted on 11/17/2017 6:03:19 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Toughluck_freeper

Ummm, if the 17th Amendment weren’t passed, we would not have Obamacare today. Any senator who was for it, could have been pulled in and removed by their state.

Senators were never intended to be direct-elected. That was for the House of Representatives. Senators were supposed to represent their state.


17 posted on 11/17/2017 6:06:29 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Toughluck_freeper

I am in agreement we should return to the original Constitution. Senators would once again be responsible to State legislators, and not be lone wolves. The longer I live the more convinced I am that the framers of the Constitution were empowered from above in the formation of this country and the writing of the Constitution. It is an amazing instrument. I am an octogenarian.

Think about the huge amount of money that will disappear from the system at election time. The media and special interests will fight it tooth and nail, which make the idea tastier.


65 posted on 11/17/2017 7:37:57 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Toughluck_freeper

“Yeah right,
So we can give a free check to Mitch McConnell and let him choose?
Or give any other group of people already in the senate the power to keep and protect their status quo?
Elections are about change. If we are displeased with the current power structure in the senate we vote and change it,
So to the author of this article: No! Heck No!”

Repeal of the 17th would return selection of a State’s U.S. Senator to adhere to the selection process specified in Constitution of that State. Prior to enactment of the 17th Amendment, States had multiple methods to their State’s U.S. Senator selection.

Some States had their Senator appointed by the Governor or selected by the State House of Representatives – these were the most common methods of selection. Some States had provisions for immediate recalls of a State‘s U.S. Senator which ensured State interest were represented in the Federal Government.

The selling point to Repeal of 17th would return control of the U.S. Senate to the State as prescribed by our Founding Fathers.


72 posted on 11/17/2017 7:50:33 PM PST by fastrock (It is right to do wrong, even if sanctioned by law. - Abe Lincoln)
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