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It's time to take a second look at JFK
American Thinker ^ | 11/25/2017 | Silvio Canto Jr.

Posted on 11/25/2017 10:56:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
I have often said that JFK, if he were alive, could not run as a Democrat. His quotes would make a Liberal's head to explode

To wit:


41 posted on 11/25/2017 12:41:02 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Ban pre-shredded cheese now! Make America Grate Again.)
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To: SeekAndFind
He was the first TV president. Eisenhower certainly wasn't. Kennedy was young and (people say) attractive and knew how to use the medium.

People put up his picture in their homes in the same way they'd put up a religious figure's or a movie star's, maybe subconsciously feeling that he was a bit of each.

Plus he came around at the right time.

The country was more united in the Eisenhower years than it has been for a very long time and Kennedy benefited from that.

Now add a bit of snob appeal and some naughty boy transgressive edge to that mainstream popularity and you've got a cult figure -- and cult figures were something the 60s did well.

42 posted on 11/25/2017 12:52:01 PM PST by x
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks SeekAndFind. He gave inspiring speeches, which means he had good speechwriters (Pierre Salinger? Salinger is thought to have ghostwritten "Profiles in Courage" if memory serves, for which JFK got a Pulitzer I think); he was glib in his press conferences; he managed to get the country motivated to build the Apollo missions to the Moon, although the F1 engines were already having their components tested during the Eisenhower administration, and most of the reasons for the success of Apollo are the German rocketeers led by Von Braun. The late Jake Javits said, "he was a lousy president", but that's probably too harsh. He was not one of our better ones, that's certain. Neither was his successor LBJ.

43 posted on 11/25/2017 12:56:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

He did a deal with the Russians. They took missles out of Cuba we took miss Les out of Turkey. He is no hero .


44 posted on 11/25/2017 12:59:06 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Dante3

He also had a mistress who was an East German spy Ellen Romesh.


45 posted on 11/25/2017 1:02:48 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: plain talk

“Same with Obama. “
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But the....the subject here was/is POTUSES, right?/!
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46 posted on 11/25/2017 1:03:15 PM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: TBP
The Bay of Pigs failed largely due to President Kennedy breaking his promise to provide air cover.
Actually, according to what I recently read but can’t cite the source (seems like I read a recent book about Eisenhower that I can’t recall the title of), Eisenhower was asked by his inner circle (which was staffed by heavyweights) if it wasn’t dangerous to create the CIA group which invaded at the Bay of Pigs. On the basis that it might be used to launch a poorly prepared, ungrounded attack on Cuba. Ike replied, “Not while I am president,” and his adviser said that that caveat was what he was worried about.

Eisenhower briefed JFK about the program and warned that it should only be used when there was a plausible alternative to Castro. JFK was a lot less attentive to Eisenhower before taking office than he had every reason to wish afterward that he had. The invasion had no leader with the stature to claim legitimacy as the president of Cuba.

When JFK explained to Ike that he had withheld air support to keep US fingerprints off the operation, Eisenhower was dismissive of the conceit that, in any such operation, US involvement could plausibly be denied.


47 posted on 11/25/2017 1:03:25 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: bigbob

For me, Trump ended the elitist era, perhaps temporarily that was ushered in when Kennedy was assassinated.


48 posted on 11/25/2017 1:05:22 PM PST by Crucial
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To: Crucial

All said, JFK ran and became POTUS, CINC, etc. He neither ran nor became God nor a defendant!

Nuff said.
My OPINION: ~ Well done!
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49 posted on 11/25/2017 1:09:43 PM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: TBP
The Bay of Pigs failed largely due to President Kennedy breaking his promise to provide air cover.

And Naval cover. The Cuban Freedom Fighters were promised that our ships would soften up their landing zones and keep the Castro forces suppressed.

Kennedy didn't have the decency to call the whole thing off, and then he didn't have the decency to inform the Cubans that he was withholding the air and naval support that they thought they were going to get.

It was this bungled invasion that caused the Cuban Missile crises. Had it never happened, the Soviets wouldn't have put missiles in Cuba to defend against another such attempted invasion.

51 posted on 11/25/2017 1:14:23 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Dante3; SJackson; SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal

[ Among others, he shared a mistress with the Mafia. ]

Well, and Adolph Hitler.


52 posted on 11/25/2017 1:14:55 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SeekAndFind

FReepers are the smartest on the freedom web. But y’all missed the best answer you should be teaching to your young ones.

JFK performed the best act of any modern U.S. President.

JFK halted fake money. He created a competing currency to the Fed Reserve fake money. Over time, Fed money loses.

The greatest impact of any nation is their fake money.

Will let this overlook slide, but next time. :-)


53 posted on 11/25/2017 1:18:29 PM PST by TheNext (DEPORT ISLAM RETROACTIVELY)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most of what we are told of the Cuban Crisis is propaganda. JFK started it by putting missiles in Turkey. The Cuban missiles were retaliation. The USSR “backed down” when JFK pulled the missiles out of Turkey.

His tax cuts were great. He was awful otherwise.


54 posted on 11/25/2017 1:18:49 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
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To: Rummyfan

Their glamour made them celebrities. Watch a press conference with Kennedy and listen to his spontaneous wit. No president in my lifetime did that. I’m 70. My mother thought he could do no wrong, even Bay of Pigs.

Presidents wer protected then. If his mistresses hit the news he would have been disgraced and toast, especially Exeter who was already with Giancana. I rate him an average president. I think if he had tow terms he may have been great or mediocre hard to tell, all supposition.

I think the Kennedys contributed directly either physically or psychologically with Monroe’s death. Peter Lawford being their intermediary.

I like the way they went after Hoffa and some of the mafia. But after having their support in the election that may have killed him.


55 posted on 11/25/2017 1:22:02 PM PST by morphing libertarian (A proud member of the Ruthie Bader Afternoon Nap Club)
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To: morphing libertarian

I would add Catholics adored him. Many homes I went into had the pope and JFK’s photos displayed. When he died I was at a debate tournament in Glendora. We were all sent back to our own schools. I went to catholic boys school in La Verne CAL. We sat with TV monitors waiting for rides home. The young Irish priests were all distraught.


56 posted on 11/25/2017 1:23:55 PM PST by morphing libertarian (A proud member of the Ruthie Bader Afternoon Nap Club)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Kennedy Half-Century: The Presidency, Assassination, and Lasting Legacy of John F. Kennedy..

ROTF LMAO: Wow, nothing like a little embellishment.

By the time Nixon got us out of Vietnam, Kennedy's legacy was toast. I'm not convinced at all he would have done what Johnson did there, so I'm also not convinced Kennedy's legacy went much beyond the mid Johnson term in office.

Half-Century,... just silly nonsense...

57 posted on 11/25/2017 1:26:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell / Ryan: Why pass Cons legislation when we can pass Leftist legislation for Leftists?)
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To: John Milner
And the Space race. Got to give him a bit of credit for that vision. Unless I’m not correct.

America got into the space race under Eisenhower and by the time Kennedy became president, we were doing quite well.

58 posted on 11/25/2017 1:31:48 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: DiogenesLamp

the standard response by pro-jfk folks appears to be that the CIA lied to jfk on intelligence that jfk relied on to support the invasion... (?)


59 posted on 11/25/2017 1:31:57 PM PST by SteveH
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To: DiogenesLamp
Do you know why there was a missile crises? Because after Kennedy's completely bungled, incompetent, immoral backstabbing of the Cuban Freedom fighters, Castro demanded the means for retaliating against the United States to prevent them from launching another invasion against him.
He demanded the Soviets give him nukes to stop another such invasion.
Again, it's because that F***ing Kennedy F***ed up the invasion of Cuba, we had a Cuban missile crises.

It also just so happened that the 1962 elections were coming up, and the GOP looked to make some major gains. Kennedy could have perpetrated the crisis in the summer of 1962, when evidence of Soviet missiles in Cuba first emerged and Senator Kenneth Keating (R-NY) was making speech after speech on this issue. But the president chose to raise the issue in mid-October, and the crisis was resolved nine days before the election.

Many Democrat candidates benefited from the euphoria felt by many Americans who were relieved that thermonuclear war had apparently been averted while the Republicans complained that the election was "Cubanized."

60 posted on 11/25/2017 1:43:29 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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