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Conductor forced to apologize for "Women conductors are not my cup of tea" remark
Slipped Disc ^ | November 25, 2017 | Norman Lebrecht

Posted on 11/25/2017 5:24:50 PM PST by nwrep

The Latvian conductor Mariss Jansons, of the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra has quickly retracted a remark made to a Telegraph interviewer in which he said that women conductors ‘are not my cup of tea’.

In a statement on Friday he said:

‘I come from a generation in which the conducting profession was almost exclusively reserved to men. Even today, many more men than women pursue conducting professionally.

‘But it was undiplomatic, unnecessary and counterproductive for me to point out that I’m not yet accustomed to seeing women on the conducting platform.

‘Every one of my female colleagues and every young woman wishing to become a conductor can be assured of my support, for we all work in pursuit of a common goal: to excite people for the art form we love so dearly – music.’

Fair enough. But the episode still leaves a foul taste.

Firstly, why would any serious journalist ask Mariss Jansons about women in the podium when he has so much else to say about life and music? Clearly the interviewer was fishing for an artificial scandal and got what he wanted. Let’s hope he’s happy now.

Second, Mariss Jansons is a man of unblemished record who survived both Soviet and western-commercial pressures. English is his fourth language after Latvian, Russian and German. How well he understood the question or the metaphor he used in reply is itself questionable. It was a slip of the tongue, no malice intended.

Third, when the guardians of lexical correctness leaped upon him he did what damage-limitation PRs now advise, which is to apologize as quickly as possible. The forced apology has its origin in Stalinist persecutions.

That’s why this episode leaves such a foul aftertaste.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Germany; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: apology; classicalmusic; culture; liberalfascism; maestro; music; orchestras
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1 posted on 11/25/2017 5:24:50 PM PST by nwrep
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To: nwrep

Speech codes.


2 posted on 11/25/2017 5:25:05 PM PST by nwrep
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To: nwrep

Three names: Marin Alsop, Rachel Worby and Margaret Hillis.


3 posted on 11/25/2017 5:26:39 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: nwrep

“Terribly sorry to have an opinion that differs from the Hive. Please accept my groveling apology.”


4 posted on 11/25/2017 5:28:08 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: nwrep

I disagree. Tom from Tom and Jerry was the greatest conductor of all time.


5 posted on 11/25/2017 5:28:14 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10% pure, flat income tax for everyone. No deductions, credits, or loopholes.)
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To: nwrep

Why should he have to apologize? He said nothing wrong.

Its fine to disagree. What is the purpose of an interview if it isn’t to find out what someone thinks?


6 posted on 11/25/2017 5:29:55 PM PST by marron
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To: nwrep

Joann Falletta is a fine conductor, but this PC speech codes is BS. Ignorant isn’t evil.


7 posted on 11/25/2017 5:32:10 PM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: nwrep

As the resident classical composer on FR, I can’t tell you whether a man or woman is conducting a piece if I am listening. All I know is good and bad, muddy and clean. Sloppy and precise. That is what matters.


8 posted on 11/25/2017 5:34:44 PM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: nwrep
From the title I was thinking TRAIN conductors. Shows what an uncultured philistine I am.
9 posted on 11/25/2017 5:40:23 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: marron
What is the purpose of an interview if it isn’t to find out what someone thinks?

Exactly!

But if his thoughts do not conform with that of the guardians of correct thought he must be brought in to alignment or be punished until he is brought in to alignment with correct thought.

No one in a position of authority or power may be permitted unsanctioned thought or opinion. At least not publicly.

10 posted on 11/25/2017 5:46:24 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What?! Bugs Bunny was the greatest conductor ever!


11 posted on 11/25/2017 5:46:29 PM PST by Crucial
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To: nwrep

He’s a fine conductor. Maybe even a great one.


12 posted on 11/25/2017 5:54:08 PM PST by onedoug
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To: BigEdLB

“That is what matters.”

What about the morale of the musicians?


13 posted on 11/25/2017 5:57:48 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: marron

Woken say such things about men and are not forced to apologize.

The gynocentric hypocrisy runs thick.


14 posted on 11/25/2017 6:09:18 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nwrep

But what about trans women? Does Mr. Jansons think of them as being merely semiconductors?


15 posted on 11/25/2017 6:16:43 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall
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To: Secret Agent Man

I look forward to public apologies by everyone who is in charge of women-specific government programs and women-specific private organizations for excluding men.


16 posted on 11/25/2017 6:25:52 PM PST by Architect of Avalon
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When did it become such a crime against humanity to have an unpc opinion. I am beyond sick of people hyperventilating about how oppressed they are. People freakin offend me all the time, and you know who cares? Nobody. If I get into an argument with a lib, even if I don’t didnt start it, you know who gets in trouble? Me. The lib can be as insulting as they want and disregard every fact as if it didnt happen if the media did not hyperventillate non stop about it (which is what happens whenever something bad about dems happens, media does not report it, then dems claim it didnt happen because the only media that reports it is “far right”. I am sick of the double standards that the left can be as vile and hate filled dripping venom non stop, but I am the freakin bad guy.


17 posted on 11/25/2017 6:38:06 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: nwrep

Boy, they’re really not his cup of tea now.


18 posted on 11/25/2017 6:46:01 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: nwrep
I'm sure they are perfectly capable of doing a good job.


19 posted on 11/25/2017 7:35:45 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: dsc

“What about the morale of the musicians?”

Why would that matter?

L


20 posted on 11/25/2017 7:42:01 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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