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Trump’s actions have confirmed historical truth
Arutz Sheva ^ | 11/12/17 | Mark Silverberg

Posted on 12/14/2017 6:37:32 PM PST by SJackson

In 1929, the Supreme Moslem Council’s publication: "A Brief Guide to the Haram Al-Sharif," stated on p. 4 that "(The Temple Mount’s) identity with the site of Solomon’s Temple is beyond dispute."

What President Trump did on December 6th was to recognize an historical reality by making Jerusalem the capital of the State of Israel - an act especially important given the efforts of the Palestinians to delegitimize the Jewish people's historical connection to the City of David. His announcement simply acknowledges reality, buries the false assumptions of the old “peace process”, and puts forth a new approach.

The Palestinians have refused to recognize those basic facts, just as they have refused to recognize Israel as a Jewish state which is why they are livid over his decision. For them, war against Israel is not a conflict about the division of land. It is a war of extermination based on their refusal to accept that the Jews have any right to that land whatsoever, and Jerusalem is central to that refusal which is why they deny the Jews any rights to Jerusalem whatsoever.

the truth is and always has been Jerusalem cannot be disconnected from the State of Israel. Trump’s action unambiguously reinforces the historic bond between the Nation of Israel and Jerusalem and the natural right of the Jewish people for self-determination in their ancestral homeland. Far from the Israeli presence there being illegal, the Jews are the only people who are entitled to the city as a matter of international law, historical truth and natural justice. The fact is Jerusalem appears 669 times in the Old Testament and 142 times in the New Testament and major Jewish rituals, including the conclusion of the Passover Seder and Yom Kippur service, end with the age-old affirmation, "Next year in Jerusalem."

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1 posted on 12/14/2017 6:37:32 PM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 12/14/2017 6:38:20 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: SJackson
And the angel of the LORD said to her, (Hagar) "Behold, you are with child, and shall bear a son; you shall call his name Ishmael; because the LORD has given heed to your affliction. He shall be a wild ass of a man, his hand against every man and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell over against all his kinsmen” --Genesis 16, 11 & 12
3 posted on 12/14/2017 7:12:18 PM PST by onedoug
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[The fact is Jerusalem appears 669 times in the Old Testament and 142 times in the New Testament]

Nice to know.

[peace process]

Just wait until the Devil incarnate confirms the covenant for 7 years (Daniel 9:26-27).


4 posted on 12/14/2017 7:17:42 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SJackson
Jewish people's historical connection to the City of David.

I thought Bethlehem was the City of David.

"For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."

- Luke 2:11

5 posted on 12/14/2017 7:19:44 PM PST by Jess Kitting
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To: Jess Kitting

Unknown as such until the New Testament. Modernists consider it an embarrassing error.


6 posted on 12/14/2017 7:22:29 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Those who consider something in Scripture to be “an embarrassing error” are in error.

Scripture is right. Where there is conflict with our opinions/beliefs, we are in the wrong.

Those who don’t believe Bethlehem to be “The City of David” don’t have all the facts. Not being confrontative. Just being truthful.


7 posted on 12/14/2017 7:40:56 PM PST by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: Theo; jjotto; Jess Kitting

David was born in Bethlehem of Judea. Bethlehem was King David’s home town.

Here’s Luke 2:4, which explains why this town is considered the city of David:

“So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David.”

Note: ... because he belonged to the house and line of David ...


8 posted on 12/14/2017 7:49:43 PM PST by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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Thanks SJackson.
In 1929, the Supreme Moslem Council’s publication: "A Brief Guide to the Haram Al-Sharif," stated on p. 4 that "(The Temple Mount’s) identity with the site of Solomon’s Temple is beyond dispute."

9 posted on 12/14/2017 7:57:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SJackson
Trump’s actions have confirmed historical truth

This is true since there were no Mooselimbs when the Savior and Redeemer of the world was born.

President Trump is very correct in saying that Jerusalem is where the U.S. embassy is to be located instead of Tel Avi.

10 posted on 12/14/2017 9:03:38 PM PST by TheConservativeTejano
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To: TheConservativeTejano
This is true since there were no Mooselimbs when the Savior and Redeemer of the world was born.

True, but Arabs have been around as long as Jews have. Both Semitic tribes, no?

11 posted on 12/15/2017 2:23:42 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: Theo

The original language may not indicate it as a known title for the town, just that it was David’s hometown, something of which they were proud of there even 2000 years ago.


12 posted on 12/15/2017 3:35:11 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Moltke

My problem with this is that during the time when the Jewish people were in present day Israel there were other folks there except they were not Mooselimb since this perverted religion came about in 700 A.D. This is my main point.

The Palestinians who lay claim to this land were not even Mooselimb.

There were other people who lived here and yes they were not Jewish people since the Jewish people did not destroy them as commanded by God. These folks that were not Jewish were a nomadic type people so they never laid claim to this land.

Why do the Palestinians lay claim to Israel???

Why do the Mooselimbs even want to build a Mooselimb Mosque next to the probably greatest temple in the world in Jerusalem???

The so called Palestinians were given the Gaza Strip recently by Israel and what did the Palestinians do to the Gaza Strip???

Unbelievable!!!

13 posted on 12/15/2017 10:10:21 AM PST by TheConservativeTejano
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To: TheConservativeTejano

“Why do the Mooselimbs even want to build a Mooselimb Mosque next to the probably greatest temple in the world in Jerusalem???”

I can’t take credit for this line of thinking - it is something I’ve heard many times:

If you look at the scriptures with regard to Satan - you will see that everything he does is in competition with God, and is always a “me too”, imperfect copy. There are many examples, especially in Revelation (The Anti-Christ), and his followers share this trait.

That, in my opinion, is the answer to your question... When they were overrunning the Mediterranean centuries ago, they often built mosques where churches stood.


14 posted on 12/15/2017 12:18:54 PM PST by HeadOn (Even if your point is valid, condescension on your part can keep you opponent from seeing it...)
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To: SJackson

Nehemiah had the winning answer to the covetous Arabs and that’s the answer that Israel should have given them from the beginning.

(Nehemiah 2:19) But when Sanballat the Horonite, and Tobiah the servant, the Ammonite, and Geshem the Arabian, heard it, they laughed us to scorn, and despised us, and said, What is this thing that ye do? will ye rebel against the king?

(Nehemiah 2:20) Then answered I them, and said unto them, The God of heaven, he will prosper us; therefore we his servants will arise and build: but ye have no portion, nor right, nor memorial, in Jerusalem.


15 posted on 12/15/2017 6:08:45 PM PST by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: SunkenCiv
In 1929, the Supreme Moslem Council’s publication: "A Brief Guide to the Haram Al-Sharif," stated on p. 4 that "(The Temple Mount’s) identity with the site of Solomon’s Temple is beyond dispute.

This can't be true.

Matthew 24:1-2, "And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down."

The Temple was completely destroyed, and according to Josephus, the entire area where the Temple stood was so thoroughly destroyed that anyone standing upon the ground where it stood would never know it. Plus, the Jewish people were away from Jerusalem for so long they actually forgot where the Temple stood.

What they now claim as the foundation of the Temple and the Western Wall is nothing more than the foundation of a Roman fortification.

Also,from Flavius Josephus, "War of the Jews, Book 7, Chapter 1, Paragraph 1, "NOW as soon as the army had no more people to slay or to plunder, because there remained none to be the objects of their fury, (for they would not have spared any, had there remained any other work to be done,) Caesar gave orders that they should now demolish the entire city and temple, but should leave as many of the towers standing as were of the greatest eminency; that is, Phasaelus, and Hippicus, and Mariamne; and so much of the wall as enclosed the city on the west side. This wall was spared, in order to afford a camp for such as were to lie in garrison, as were the towers also spared, in order to demonstrate to posterity what kind of city it was, and how well fortified, which the Roman valor had subdued; but for all the rest of the wall, it was so thoroughly laid even with the ground by those that dug it up to the foundation, that there was left nothing to make those that came thither believe it had ever been inhabited. This was the end which Jerusalem came to by the madness of those that were for innovations; a city otherwise of great magnificence, and of mighty fame among all mankind."

The entire city and the Temple, except for a wall and a few towers, was completely leveled, just as Jesus said it would happen. So there is no way the so-called "Temple Mount" can be place where Solomon's and Herod's Temple stood.

16 posted on 12/15/2017 9:45:21 PM PST by ducttape45 (Every Saint has a past, Every Sinner has a Future!)
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To: ducttape45
That was the second temple period coming to an end, Herod had built quite a complex, but Solomon's temple was indeed on the Rock. During the Roman War (or Jewish War, as the turncoat Josephus called it) various factions held various parts of that area. When the temple enclosure fell, in an artillery assault (not gunpowder, Roman artillery), the projectiles came in with such intensity the walls couldn't be manned, and ultimately those under siege who could still make it fled into the temple. Obviously it didn't end well. The late Michael Grant, classical historian, assembled quite a thorough account of the period in his "Jews in the Roman World". Ultimately up to 15 percent of the Empire was Jewish.

17 posted on 12/15/2017 10:01:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: TheConservativeTejano

Right. And I’m just pointing out that there were Arab tribes in the region before Mad Mo got a hold of them and turned them into the zombies they still are.

I believe the enmity between the Palis and Israelis is tribal as much as religious. Tribal goes deeper and is older.


18 posted on 12/16/2017 12:51:16 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: Moltke

Partner, what you have pointed out is the main reason we do not have the Saudis provide land to the Palestinians.

One thing for sure is that the Isralies have contributed more to human society than the Palestinians ever will contribute. Is this a Tribal thing or what?

I think we both know the answer.

19 posted on 12/19/2017 12:52:09 PM PST by TheConservativeTejano
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To: HeadOn

Partner, you hit a homerun with that response.

We have personally been to parts of Hungary where the Mooslimbs/Turks conquered Budapest and the Mooselimb hordes destroyed beautiful Christian Churches and the Hungarians in today's world have kept the foundations only for future Christians to see what the Mooselimbs did in Europe.

The Mooselimbs converted the really beautiful Christian Churches in Hungary to Mosques.

You will never see the Fake News MSM report any of the atrocities that the Mooselimbs committed when they conquered other countries.

I am grateful to know that you know that direct revelation does not go to the Mooselimbs of today since there is no central head of the Mooselimb church so they can not even receive revelations directly from God.

This is the main reason I call the Mooselimb religion of today a cult and nothing more than a cult.

20 posted on 12/19/2017 1:03:26 PM PST by TheConservativeTejano
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