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There's nothing wrong with Trump's desire for better immigrants
The Hill ^ | January 12, 2018 | John R Lott Jr

Posted on 01/12/2018 12:54:19 PM PST by richardb72

it racist to say that you would prefer immigrants coming to the U.S. who are well-educated, skilled, and high-income earners? Or would you want poorly-educated, unskilled people? Is it racist for countries such as Canada and Australia to rank immigrants on a point system based on these qualities?

President Trump supposedly called Haiti and African nations “shithole countries” and said, “We should have more people from Norway.” Trump denies using that language, while Republican senators say that “do not recall” him saying it.

To Trevor Noah, it was a clear case of racism. “But you know what part put it over the line for me is Norway,” Noah told his Comedy Central audience on Thursday. “Yeah, when he said where he wanted immigrants to come from, he didn’t just name a white country. He named the whitest country.” . . .

While some people see everything in terms of race, there are other obvious reasons why you might prefer people from certain countries.

Norway’s per-student spending from primary school through college is the third highest among developed countries. It has one of the world’s highest real per capita incomes, which adjusts for livings costs. In 2016, the IMF listed Norway at $69,249. That is 21 percent higher than the U.S. real per capita income of $57,436.

In contrast, Haiti’s real per capita income is just $1,784 per person. In sub-Saharan Africa, it is $3,732.

The differences in people’s skills explain a lot of these variations in income. Haiti’s education system is a disaster, with the lowest schooling rate in the Western Hemisphere. Haiti's literacy rate is well below the average for Latin American and Caribbean countries (61 percent versus 90 percent).....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; cprc; immigrants; immigration; mediabias; trump
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1 posted on 01/12/2018 12:54:19 PM PST by richardb72
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To: richardb72

If Haiti had received that Clinton Foundation money ... they would have nice shiny schools by now ... pity, they did not


2 posted on 01/12/2018 12:56:15 PM PST by rayincolorado ("Those who forget the past, are condemned to repeat it ...")
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To: richardb72

People who can pay their own way!

We are not the world’s social service program. Africa has received billions of aid from the US, non-profits and private charities!

There should be enough wells drilled for water across the entire content!

Where is the results of all our donations?


3 posted on 01/12/2018 12:57:24 PM PST by Lopeover ( The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: richardb72

Our country is being overrun by violent 3rd world dullards, and it is all by design.

The elites seek to destroy us. This is how they do it.

God bless Trump. He started a dialog. Let the treasonous leftist media continue the dialog and rebut trump’s claims.

Do we need more nonwhite 3rd worlders?

I posit “no”.


4 posted on 01/12/2018 12:58:38 PM PST by T-Bone Texan
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To: richardb72

Does Norway have a ski team like the Sweedish ski team? Cause that would settle everything.


5 posted on 01/12/2018 12:58:51 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: rayincolorado

Many years ago I read that Haiti did not have a single ambulance in service. They do have lots of rapes, though.

No, I do not want that barbaric culture near my family.


6 posted on 01/12/2018 1:00:57 PM PST by T-Bone Texan
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To: richardb72

To Trevor Noah, it was a clear case of racism. “But you know what part put it over the line for me is Norway,” Noah told his Comedy Central audience on Thursday. “Yeah, when he said where he wanted immigrants to come from, he didn’t just name a white country. He named the whitest country.” . . .


How the hell did Trevor Noah get a green card to work in this country? Aren’t there enough American born liberal idiots to do “comedy” on that stupid show of his???


7 posted on 01/12/2018 1:01:39 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: richardb72

The Grand Poobah at the UN just said this week he wants a World Cesspool


8 posted on 01/12/2018 1:02:58 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: T-Bone Texan

We have family in Norway. Lovely, hard working, highly skilled people. We would love to have them here. They would enhance the productivity of our country and would not be a burden.


9 posted on 01/12/2018 1:05:55 PM PST by p. henry
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To: richardb72
I equate the United States like a life raft. A ship sinks, tossing hundreds into shark infested waters. Life boats go out, but there's room for only 50. Your raft is full, but you row over to another and pull them in. Then another and another. Now the life boat is beyond capacity and beginning to show stress from the weight, but you spot a child so everyone rows to her, pulls her aboard atop of the others.

Looking out over the debris you spot dozens of folks in the water screaming for help. Everyone in the boat wants to help, but at this point, one or two more people in your raft will surely sink it, dumping everyone back into the water, saving no one.

What do you do? In an effort to save those in the already overloaded raft...you row away from the crowd attempting to climb on to your raft. It's a hard pill to swallow...but’cha gotta do it.

Put up the damn wall! Our raft is sinking.

10 posted on 01/12/2018 1:06:02 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: richardb72

Norway’s GDP is based a large part on oil extraction.

Norwegians also have a beautiful country.

Haitians once did.


11 posted on 01/12/2018 1:07:10 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: richardb72

He was talking about the countries, not the people. And he was absolutely right.

I knew somebody who worked for a huge foreign aid organization, and apparently the group that dealt with certain parts of Africa had a phrase, “WAWA,” meaning “West Africa Wins Again.” This was when, for example, the grant letter was dumped into the river by a postman who just didn’t want to deliver the mail that day. Or any day, for that matter.

So there’s a level of inefficiency that is amazing, but since the fish rots from the head, it all comes from the top of the line: the corrupt, money-sucking racist/leftist government.

Trump should capitalize on this and call these countries out. We and the UN give them billions in aid and they still can’t provide drinking water, sanitation, medical care or...reliable mail delivery...to their citizens.


12 posted on 01/12/2018 1:10:07 PM PST by livius
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To: richardb72

Most Haitians could be living in ocean view estates in Haiti.

They just need to get their act together and get it done by 2028.


13 posted on 01/12/2018 1:10:37 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Lopeover
Where is the results of all our donations?

The Cayman Islands.

14 posted on 01/12/2018 1:12:29 PM PST by usurper ( version)
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To: richardb72

Off topic a bit, but has everyone noticed, the media is in meltdown mode over Trump saying what he said. One “wrong” word and all hell breaks loose.

My thoughts:

1. It was a private meeting, and lots of things are said in private that wouldn’t be said publicly.

2. The mock outrage of liberals is exasperating. They say much much worse in their private moments. The liberals who profess to be oh so shocked at this language use this language all the time.

3. The issue at hand, regarding dealing with illegals and immigration issues, gets lost because the media and liberals decided to have a meltdown because Trump allegedly said “s*ithole”. The entire focus is on how Trump said a bad word, not on the issues at hand.


15 posted on 01/12/2018 1:14:29 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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up until 30 or so years ago, immigration was means tested on ability to support oneself and actual need for their work.

Which is funny, because years ago when I learned about the immigration policy, they had the same tests.

You are taking away a job from someone in that country.

So, I am listening to Tony Robbins today and he relays this story about him having a seminar in Canada 30 years ago.

After one of his seminars he meets some Canadian official who insists on meeting him the next day at 5:30pm.

Tony imforms him he has a seminar at 7pm and it wouldn’t be possible.

The Canadian tells him it wasn’t a reuest.

So, they meet the next day and the Canadian demands to see his work permit, telling him he is taking away work from citizens.

Tony blurts back something like “How many people actually do what I do in Canada?” . He asked incredulously....

The Canadian official tells him he is selling Neuro Linguistic Programming and there are 5 people who can’ work because of him.

Tony doesn’t have a permit of course and is told his seminar is over. It can’t go on.

So, Tony contrives a great idea.

He asks one of his assistants how far away the Canadian Border is and learns it’s only 1.5 hours.

He hires a bunch of buses surprises everyone when they show up for the seminar that it is a road trip.

Bellingham, WA is where the seminar is held for the next 3 days, with them returning every night to the original location in Canada.

So, there are rules for immigration and laws in each country.

This craptastic notion has of everyone thinking “Oh, we are a nation of immigrants”

Nope. We are a nation of citizens within a border and share a common culture....


16 posted on 01/12/2018 1:16:03 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: richardb72

The USA is The Best Country in the world. We should be very selective about letting only the best into our country. If people are upset about that, then don’t try coming here and if you are here and offended by that, feel free to leave for the country of your choice.

Diluting and burdening our country with illiterate, low IQ, unskilled, unmotivated people are a drag on our country long term. We don’t need those people - period - and we can afford to keep them out.

We need to continuously upgrade our country. We need to do that by improving the citizens who are here and improving the talent pool with very selective legal immigrants.


17 posted on 01/12/2018 1:17:58 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Lopeover
We are not the world’s social service program

We are. But we shouldn't be. It's long past time to start taking care of our own and let the scum of the earth fail permanently or improve themselves. Either way, their choice. Stop the enabling.

18 posted on 01/12/2018 1:18:12 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The issue at hand, regarding dealing with illegals and immigration issues, gets lost because the media and liberals decided to have a meltdown because Trump allegedly said “s*ithole”. The entire focus is on how Trump said a bad word, not on the issues at hand.

Because the Media and the Democrats KNOW that they will loose on this subject...there is not one hard-working, barely scrapping by American that is willing to give-up THEIR American dream chances to these turd-world people who show up with their hands-out, EXPECTING some kind of payment!

And those hard-working Americans, with at least half a brain, KNOW that the Democrats are just importing voters!! They don't care if these people succeed or just suck off the Government teat - they NEED these voters! Period!!

Democrats (with the help of the Media) are all about feelings and conjecture, because the substance on which they stand is complete and utter BOVINE EXCREMENT!
19 posted on 01/12/2018 1:22:17 PM PST by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated!)
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To: p. henry; T-Bone Texan; Brian Griffin

Scandinavian immigrants have contributed much to this great country but do we also want citizens of modern Scandinavia importing their beliefs in secularism, socialism, euthanasia on demand, abortion of disabled babies, and climate change?

In the meantime, my observations in Europe are that it was African and Carribean immigrants of former British/French colonies keeping *European* (Anglican, Catholic, etc...) churches alive! Esp in the U.K. And several white Britons told me they would have given up on the faith had it not been for an African colleague, or for being invited to a spirited African style service...

Not to mention the main leaders of Catholicism and Church of England who have not caved on doctrine re: homosexuality, gender, marriage, and abortion - tend to hail from Africa.


20 posted on 01/12/2018 1:26:08 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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