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‘Might as Well Roll It Straight Into the Trash Can’: Tom Cotton Shoots Down Expansive ‘Gang of Six’
Breitbart ^ | 16 Jan 2018 | John Binder

Posted on 01/17/2018 8:32:43 AM PST by Cheerio

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To: Alberta's Child

That lets a whole host of “Latino Studies” activists hang around.

The university system should definitely NOT be a gatekeeper for this process. If it is, it will result in a final eligible population even more left wing than the average.

Having stolen an education in addition to all the other misbegotten and misappropriated wealth that belonged to Americans should not be construed as a positive in any way. In every case, a more meritorious American student was displaced to make room for them.


41 posted on 01/17/2018 5:22:38 PM PST by thoughtomator
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Senators are crooks its because they are such a good deal.

Since 1999 when the lobbying disclosure act was passed 56,175 lobbyists on behalf of 67,464 clients have been paid approximately $69,905,275,797 as of the end of last year which comes out split evenly per lobbyist $1,244,419.68 approximately.

Senators are cheap and do what they're told plus they're in for 6 years. You should buy a couple watch how your luck changes.

42 posted on 01/17/2018 9:34:35 PM PST by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; Reno89519

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“Start with end catch-and-release; implement eVerify for all current and future workers, temporary or permanent; end chain migration, end birthright citizenship, and build the wall. DACA?”

Democrats don’t realize that building the wall, ending chain migration and lottery are not up for negotiation. Not going to happen so don’t even bother.

Here is what I would accept. If you were born here and are going to school, we’ll figure it out. If you are the latest generation and were not born in US, your family has to leave, get in line and then come back. If anyone in your family has a felony conviction and were not born in America, they have to leave and cannot come back. If anyone was not born in this country and are collecting services from the government, they have to leave.

Go from there.
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Why does SCHOOLING have anything to do w/ the issue of legality?? The 14th holds the bar on ‘born here’

Everything else is pretty spot on, ‘cept for 2 things:
1) welfare - end it. Any/all. That alone will “fix” a majority of the issue(s) re: illegals, immigration, single-mother+. It’s also *the* best Constitutional rememdy.

2) HELL no on the eVerify. A) There is no Fed. authorization for such a plan/program B) It places the burden upon biz that which the Fed has failed to do [its JOB of protecting/defending the borders, upholding/enforcing the Law] C) We see how well Fedzilla is w/ DBs [they can’t even track the Visa holders, IRS fraud...but THIS they’ll run correctly??] D) Free Men do not need PERMISSION from their servant to work.


43 posted on 01/18/2018 8:03:10 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Reno89519; All

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How about congress get serious on immigration reform by a novel approach: how to remove 30-60 million illegal aliens from the US? Start with end catch-and-release; implement eVerify for all current and future workers, temporary or permanent; end chain migration, end birthright citizenship, and build the wall. DACA? Maybe give those actually in school waivers to finish their schooling, others leave now. Illegal parents, leave now. These help all Americans, regardless of gender, race, ethnicity, and age. Give us back our country! And hopefully Durbin’s constituents remember his sell-out proposals when he is next up for reelection.
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Congress? Those Laws are already on the books.

Only thing I can think of, off the top of my head, for Congress would be to rescind welfare...it’s illegal in its entirety (5th/13th); as well as going after the Judiciary and their illegal power grabs/edicts (IE: a proper English reading of the 14th A.).

It’s Mr. Trump and HIS leg of our Republic that needs to do its J-O-B.

Course, he’s got Sessions sleeping on the job instead of rounding up the ‘leaders’ of sanctuary XYZ...or raiding 100 7-11’s (IE: *SMALL* potatoes)

Arrest Gov. Moonbeam, DiBlasio, a few sheriffs, etc. and you’ll see the Exodus on that evening’s news


44 posted on 01/18/2018 8:13:29 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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I am a business owner, I see no problem with using eVerify. Good corporate citizenship should demand it. It is not a big burden. Okay, make it a $100K fine and 5 years in prison for each illegal alien you temporarily or permanently hire without using eVerify, no such penalty if you use eVerify and they are not spotted at the time.

I figure schooling is the negotiable part. If we allow any form of waivers for kids--not the illegal families--then we need to negotate on a. ages (arrived under 8-12 year old?), b. arrival date (pre 2008?), c. are they in school now?, etc. I'd push for 8 years old, pre-2018 so we are only talking about school-age kids, still in school. Since none over 18, they don't need work permits. And, being nice, let them finish current school year before going home.

45 posted on 01/18/2018 8:46:40 AM PST by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: Reno89519
I figure schooling is the negotiable part. If we allow any form of waivers for kids--not the illegal families--then we need to negotate on a. ages (arrived under 8-12 year old?), b. arrival date (pre 2008?), c. are they in school now?, etc. I'd push for 8 years old, pre-2018 pre-2008 so we are only talking about school-age kids, still in school. Since none over 18, they don't need work permits. And, being nice, let them finish current school year before going home.
46 posted on 01/18/2018 8:48:31 AM PST by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: Reno89519

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I am a business owner, I see no problem with using eVerify. Good corporate citizenship should demand it. It is not a big burden. Okay, make it a $100K fine and 5 years in prison for each illegal alien you temporarily or permanently hire without using eVerify, no such penalty if you use eVerify and they are not spotted at the time.

I figure schooling is the negotiable part. If we allow any form of waivers for kids—not the illegal families—then we need to negotate on a. ages (arrived under 8-12 year old?), b. arrival date (pre 2008?), c. are they in school now?, etc. I’d push for 8 years old, pre-2018 so we are only talking about school-age kids, still in school. Since none over 18, they don’t need work permits. And, being nice, let them finish current school year before going home.
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That’s great, *YOU* don’t have a problem with eVerify. Guess NP then ‘supplying’ people h’care, being their CPA, and a host of other govt mandates.

I have yet to see ANY ‘voluntary’ govt program remain the same.

That doesn’t negate the other points I raised, the biggest being “*NO* Constitutional authority”; least of all GOVT ‘permission’.

YOU and your biz interest(s) wish to lock-hips w/ any govt agency to proudly proclaim ‘eVerify member since...’, knock yourself out. But to flip Federalism on its head for the sake of covering Fedzilla’s @ss for failing to do its JOB (which it has shown, time and time again, as capable but unwilling) is another.


47 posted on 01/18/2018 11:01:19 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Reno89519

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I figure schooling is the negotiable part. If we allow any form of waivers for kids—not the illegal families—then we need to negotate on a. ages (arrived under 8-12 year old?), b. arrival date (pre 2008?), c. are they in school now?, etc. I’d push for 8 years old, pre-2018 pre-2008 so we are only talking about school-age kids, still in school. Since none over 18, they don’t need work permits. And, being nice, let them finish current school year before going home.
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What part of ‘illegal’ or ‘criminal’ is hard to understand?

How does one *verify* ‘arrival’??

Being nice? That’s not THEIR $$ being used to provide for their education, taking up a LEGAL/citizen job (suppressing wages) nor farking over a legal/citizen’s identity.

I, for one, am tired of ‘compassionate (C)’. What’d ya want to do next, “win hearts and minds’ too?


48 posted on 01/18/2018 11:07:42 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Pravious
Good post....

Totally agree......!!

49 posted on 01/18/2018 11:13:09 AM PST by Osage Orange (Watch your six.)
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To: i_robot73
So I'm gathering you are a total anti-government nay-sayer that will object to everything, get nothing as a result, and be happy complaining.

And with such a position, how do you live within your values? Which stores do you shop at and what products do you buy. If you can't rely upon government to ensure legal labor and all, are you doing the research and making those deliberate choices or are you just all talk and no action?

If you are not willing to have government work on a solution to identify and deport illegal aliens, saying it is not their role, then what are you doing to identify and deport them?

My problem with your extremist views, which is what they are, you promote anarchy and undermine the definition and rule of law, the norms and practices that make us a good, exceptional country. You throw it all out instead of fixing the problems. Think of country that would result in your view actually being implemented.

No, we have a great country, we just need to fix it, not tear it down. We can't expect success tilting at windmills, demanding non-negotiable extremes that are never going to happen.

Even while I say NO AMNESTY, it is clear that some of those "innocent" kids will be allowed to stay. Fine, lets make it a good, negotiated solution. Only kids that were 8 and younger in 2008, only kids in school, no work permits, no citizenship, no chain migration for parents and family, get eVerify to remove the employment lure, end birthright citizenship, etc. And, build the wall. The Dems are so adamant on the kids staying, fine, make the trade off real. Fix the problem so we don't repeat next year, 10 years from now, etc. Undo the damage Reagan started with his amnesty in the 80s, fix the problems started in 65. Solve the problem!

50 posted on 01/18/2018 12:16:31 PM PST by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

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“They would be considered citizens....”

...Only through a misapplication/misreading of the 14th Amendment. For birthright citizenship the parents must be legally residing in the US. Visitors don’t accrue citizenship for children born here.


51 posted on 01/18/2018 3:16:29 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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To: Forty-Niner

I agree.


52 posted on 01/18/2018 3:27:52 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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