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To: Kaslin

We pay a tax for Social Security. That money needs to be put in an interest bareing account and used only for Social Security.

If those benefuts are cut off from the next generation there will be a huge class action lawsuit to get all that money back they took from us. It is considered a contract.


3 posted on 01/21/2018 9:56:08 AM PST by Angels27
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To: Angels27

“We pay a tax for Social Security. That money needs to be put in an interest bareing account and used only for Social Security.”

It already is - in US Treasuries!

BTW, ‘Angels27’ - anything to do with Mike Trout or just coincidence?


8 posted on 01/21/2018 9:59:18 AM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Angels27

That honestly doesn’t help.

Just like the looming issue with 401K’s, when a larger amount of money is being taken out of the accounts than going in, the accounts won’t perform well.

Unless you mean true savings accounts, which would be a net loss of value with inflation.

Unfortunately, that money was spent on all sorts of things, and is gone.


10 posted on 01/21/2018 10:02:08 AM PST by redgolum
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To: Angels27

Actually it’s not a contract. There have already been lawsuits about it, the money belongs to the government, you are owed not one penny, they can do with it as they will.


36 posted on 01/21/2018 10:40:20 AM PST by discostu (Lick here [ ] you might be one of the lucky 25.)
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To: Angels27
It still wouldn't be enough, and the intrinsic ponzi scheme nature of social security has been pointed out all of my life.

I would say that it has been debated, but the wistful assertion that a way to fund the program is a crappy defense of the program, and the solution of printing fiat money was always what it was going to come down to.

There is no solution.
It is inherently insolvent.

There are zero victims.
The voters have rejected plan after plan which would have privatized the system.

Those who will receive Nothing after paying in for years will deserve the nothing they will get.
Including me, and including you.
I have no valid defense, and neither do you.

48 posted on 01/21/2018 11:02:32 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Angels27

No offense, but what planet are you living on?


70 posted on 01/21/2018 12:33:08 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: Angels27

“It is considered a contract.”

Wrong. See Fleming v Nestor.

L


76 posted on 01/21/2018 12:44:09 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Angels27

In other words,

the U.S. Constitution has the takings clause

covers Social Security default.


79 posted on 01/21/2018 1:40:05 PM PST by TheNext
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To: Angels27

Re: “It is considered a contract.”

It may be a “political” contract, but Social Security and Medicare are absolutely not “legal” contracts.

Congress, with the president’s signature, can terminate both of those programs any time they want to.


88 posted on 01/21/2018 2:20:24 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Angels27

LOL. You are 50 years too late for that.


89 posted on 01/21/2018 2:22:07 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Angels27
interest bareing account

You mean it's like......NEKKID!

102 posted on 01/21/2018 7:58:19 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs?....Same thing.)
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To: Angels27
an interest bareing account

This must be one of those accounts that strips away all the principle, and leave the interest hanging out there in its birthday suit.

103 posted on 01/21/2018 8:01:55 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs?....Same thing.)
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To: Angels27

You are correct, but the amount of money-printing that may be required to pay those benefits in the future, could destroy the country, in the future.

The steadfast insistence of the nation to even consider the mildest reforms to the benefit structure, a penny a month lower benefit next year, is a sign of the stupidity and insanity of Socialism. Thanks.


106 posted on 01/22/2018 5:57:22 AM PST by babble-on
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