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The history and significance of the wedding cake
Mercatornet ^ | January 31, 2018 | Paul Sullins

Posted on 02/01/2018 12:40:54 PM PST by fwdude

Wedding cakes today are in the news and legal briefs, as same-sex couples occasionally conflict with caterers with religious objections who refuse to prepare a cake for their wedding.

The nature and resolution of this dispute is not the subject of this essay, at least not directly; rather, I want to address a question in the conflict which has been largely ignored. For in the same-sex couple’s desire for a cake, to the point of offense at being denied one, and in the baker’s considered refusal, at the risk of fines and sanction, to prepare one, both parties acknowledge the fundamental importance of a wedding cake to a wedding celebration.

Why is it the cake, and not some other element of the wedding celebration, such as announcements, flowers, seating, meals, or music, which is the occasion of conflict? The couple and the baker may disagree about the marriage, but they apparently agree about the cake. If they are like most Americans, neither party could explain fully why they feel it is important, though they sense, correctly, that it is.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: gayagenda; homosexualagenda
Very well-researched article which should have been an amicus brief in the Masterpiece Cakes court case.
1 posted on 02/01/2018 12:40:54 PM PST by fwdude
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To: fwdude
"who refuse to prepare a cake for their wedding."

No one should have to do something they don't want to. That's called freedom, a despised concept among the left wing.
2 posted on 02/01/2018 12:43:07 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: fwdude

I always advise those who are soon to be wed not to eat wedding cake at their reception as statistically 50% of all wedded couples who eat wedding cake at their reception end up divorced.


3 posted on 02/01/2018 12:44:12 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Note the backward tactic the left now uses, conflating passive refusal (doing nothing) to active behavior in DOING (discriminating) something they don’t like.

We can see where this is going, the criminalization of failure to participate in a host of events characterized by specific speech.


4 posted on 02/01/2018 12:46:16 PM PST by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude

What is it called when someone can force someone else to do things for them? Slavery. Funny thing is that Democrats were pro-slavery 150 years ago, and they’re pro-slavery today. All that’s changed is the type of slavery.


5 posted on 02/01/2018 12:49:47 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Donald Melania wedding cake.


6 posted on 02/01/2018 1:47:10 PM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 Trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Liz

Quite a cake. Every time I see one I think back to my nephew’s wedding. It was in a sort of barn/chapel and the cake sat there for hours collecting fruit flies. I was told no, the black dots are not part of the icing. Sometimes, you just have to eat a few flies.


7 posted on 02/01/2018 2:10:45 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder
........here's an even sadder wedding cake story.......

Sylvia Weinstock made the most fantastic wedding cakes.

She mailed one spectacular sweet to her brother for his wedding day.

As luck would have it, a storm blew in and the airlines were socked under a blizzard of snow.

Did the cake go to waste? No. The airline personnel ate it.

8 posted on 02/01/2018 2:26:09 PM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 Trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: joesbucks
"...statistically 50% of all wedded couples who eat wedding cake at their reception end up divorced."

Even worse...100% of those who eat anyone's wedding cake end up dying...

9 posted on 02/01/2018 8:26:17 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: SuperLuminal

:)


10 posted on 02/02/2018 5:46:55 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: fwdude

Craig and Mullins visited Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, Colorado to order a custom wedding cake for their return celebration. Masterpiece’s owner Jack Phillips, who is Christian, declined, informing the couple that he did not create wedding cakes for same-sex marriages due to his religious beliefs although the couple could purchase other baked goods in the store.[2][3]:1-2 Craig and Mullins left the store without discussing details of the cake design.[3]:2 The following day, Craig’s mother called Phillips, who told her that he does not make wedding cakes for same-sex weddings.[3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colorado_Civil_Rights_Commission (emp. mine):

There are too many myths being propagated about the Supreme Court case involving Jack Phillips and Masterpiece Cakeshop. It’s time to set the record straight....

First, Jack is a cake artist, something that’s become more famous since reality television shows like “Cake Wars.” He doesn’t just bake cakes; he custom designs master cakes. However, from the beginning Jack has seen his business as an expression of his faith (hence the name), and that has led him to reject business throughout his career. For example, he’s refused to make custom cakes for Halloween and divorce celebrations, and he’s turned down requests for lewd cakes for bachelor and bachelorette parties.

Back in 2012, two men asked Jack to design a cake for their same-sex wedding. Now mind you, back in 2012, the state of Colorado didn’t even recognize same-sex weddings. Jack told them that he would gladly sell them any item in the store—including cakes—but that he could not, due to his religious convictions, use his cake-design talents to participate in the celebration of their ceremony.

The couple left fuming. Vile phone calls started pouring in—even death threats. The Colorado Civil Rights Commission not only fined Jack, but ordered that if he made custom wedding cakes for heterosexual couples, he also had to do it for same-sex couples. Then the Commission—behaving like some communist dictatorship might—ordered Jack and his employees to go through a “re-education” program and provide quarterly compliance reports. - BreakPoint: Get the Facts about Jack (Phillips, that Is) http://www.breakpoint.org/2017/11/breakpoint-get-facts-jack-phillips/

Just as Jack would not create custom cakes for Halloween and divorce celebrations, as cited, he would not contracting to create a cake for straight people who wanted one to celebrate “gay marriage” or that of btwn a man and his goat.

Was Masterpiece refusing to sell a cake anyone else could buy? No.

Was Masterpiece singling out homosexuals in denying to contract for a cake celebrating homosexual marriage? No (straight couples would also be refused such/”discriminated” against, like as for Halloween and divorce celebrations).

Was Masterpiece acting consistent with his convictions here? Yes.

Was the refusal by Masterpiece to recognize “gay marriage” also that of the state at the time? Yes.

Would Masterpiece be conveying recognition of “gay marriage” by contracting to provide this special and expensive cake? Yes.

Was the state effectively requiring Masterpiece not to have or act upon compelling convictions in this regard by punishing the owners for not recognizing what the state itself historically did not? Yes.

Would the state punish a black or Jewish or Muslim baker for not creating a special cake for a KKK celebration, though they have the right to freedom of speech? Unlikely.

We a paradox. Philips is punished by the state for refusing to contract to create a cake for a wedding that was not not legally recognized by the state at that time.

Seems like the state should not punish Masterpiece  not recognizing what it did not recognize, or to be consistent with its punishment of Masterpiece,  then the state should be fining itself for sexual discrimination in proportion to how it fined Masterpiece.

Also,

The average wedding cake costs $582 [delivery is extra]. Some bakers prefer to charge by the slice. Today, couples pay anywhere from $1.50 to $12 per slice. A wedding with 150 guests could cost you as much as $1,800!...You should order your wedding cake at least a few months before your special day - .Study: Average Cost of a Wedding Cake

Custom cake orders require two weeks notice. Your deposit of 30% is due at the time of ordering. Buttercream flowers and an inscription are the standard decoration that comes with the price of the cake. - Main Street Bakery & Gift Shop | Columbia, SC

“Refunds are not provided for any reason. Due to our full schedule and our attention to detail we spend many hours planning and preparing before even beginning on a cake.” - How to Establish Policies for Success with A Cake Business


11 posted on 02/02/2018 8:48:56 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...

Ping to above.


12 posted on 02/02/2018 8:49:43 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Liz

Oooh....to have a slice of that cake :-)


13 posted on 02/02/2018 8:54:26 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: fwdude

Thanks a lot of detail. Appreciate this.


14 posted on 02/02/2018 9:58:02 PM PST by redleghunter (Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
No one should have to do something they don't want to. That's called freedom, a despised concept among the left wing.

I don't think so, at all. When someone give up one's freedom to do the bidding of another, the activity is called "work," and the reason for it is called "a paycheck."

The left-winger wants to keep the "freedom" concept alive by getting a "paycheck" without commensurate "work."

The beauty and symmetry of the whole scheme is that the left-winger can force those who have already given up their freedom to obtain a "wage" to extend his bondage a bit further by taking back a portion of that "paycheck" called "a tax," whereby the one choosing "freedom" can obtain a "paycheck" also, thus preserving a myth called "equality."

The morality of this system is called "social justice."

15 posted on 02/03/2018 1:07:46 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Yes, you have the concept of forced equality down pat. It’s another kind of slavery. A wage, however, is one service freely traded for another: labor. Each party agrees to its fairness. I differ on your concept of tax. It should directly benefit the taxpayer, because that’s also a service contract between citizen and government. I pay this much for so much protection against that which I can’t guard against singly. Invading armies, ability to travel in relative safety, and so forth. Taxes are not (or should not be) a redistribution of wealth to those who choose not to earn it themselves.

But, I’m also willing to make some allowances. There are legitimate purposes for things like welfare for those who actually need it. I might need it myself some day, so in this sense it at least has potential to directly benefit me.


16 posted on 02/03/2018 1:39:01 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: joesbucks

Wrong. About a third get divorced, remarried, divorced, remarried etc.


17 posted on 02/03/2018 1:46:54 AM PST by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

All you’ve done here is to provide excuses why the one who has already given up his freedom should not give up more of it, and thus get to the point where he can no longer extricate himself.


18 posted on 02/03/2018 1:51:12 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Where there is free will, there is freedom. I’ve not given up any of it, or suggested anyone should.


19 posted on 02/03/2018 1:57:29 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Where there is free will, there is freedom. I’ve not given up any of it, or suggested anyone should.

With all due respect, you have given up complete freedom, and in its place have received the right to liberty. Our jails are filled with constituents who confused the two. It is my hope that you can have the liberty to roam about, not interfering with the right of others to do the same.

20 posted on 02/03/2018 8:09:29 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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