Hostiles Review: Thoughtful Western showcases strong characters

Townhall.com ^ | February 3, 2018 | John Hanlon

[vetvetdoug]

Quanah Parker was the last Comanche chief to be subjugated and lived near Lawton, Oklahoma, in Comanche County, Oklahoma. He was the Chief of the last rogue tribe of the Comanches and was credited with the last Native American victory against the US Cavalry. Fifteen years after fighting the US Army, he was visited and rode with Theodore Roosevelt near Frederick, Oklahoma. The story may have been a little footloose with the history but to portray the Comanche as brutal and cruel would be correct.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

If you want to see Christian Bale at his best then watch “The Machinist”. A tour de force performance in my book.

[Guenevere]

It’s your call to make.

[Guenevere]

You have just made the point that two people can see the movie, and have totally different opinions.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

My ancestors homesteaded in Oklahoma in 1901, Kiowa county. They said that even then if you saw Indians traveling to Fort Sill you grabbed the guns and got your family to safety.

Just in case.

Today’s youth have no connection with the Frontier days. As a baby, I was held by my Great-grand-pappy who was born in 1868, when Custer raided the Oklahoma Indian camps, Eight when Custer died in Montana, bison on the plains, cattle drives heading north. He lived long enough to see the B-52 Bomber go into service.

Anyone interested in what the Military thought of the Indians back in 1863-1865 should read THE INDIAN WAR OF 1864 by Capt. Eugene Ware. (Bison Books). He lived it.

[mad_as_he$$]

Godless may be some of the best cinema to be produced in a long time.

I have seen my death......

I binged watched after the first episode.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Is it as bad as the horrid SOLDIER BLUE from 1970? Worst Western movie I have ever seen. Second worst, but still fun to watch, is LITTLE BIG MAN.

After seeing these two I knew revisionism had hit, and destroyed, the history of the Old West.

[ckilmer]

Christian bale is great, the scenery is great, the supporting cast was good but the movie is not believable in its details from the beginning to the end. The people are strangers when the audience sees them in the beginning and remain strangers through the end.

[catnipman]

“I don’t recall ever seeing a movie with Christian Bale.”

then you should see “American Psycho”. one of the most amazing movies ever made, and perhaps the best performance by an American actor EVER!

[katana]

I don't recall ever seeing a movie with Christian Bale.

So you've never seen any of the Dark Knight Batman films, American Psycho, The Prestige, American Hustle, or when he was a child actor in Empire of the Sun? He's a reputed jerk in real life, but an outstanding actor and has been hard to avoid for the last thirty years.

[Guenevere]

Thank you!
Excellent!

[katana]

The Comanche made the Apaches, who they brutally displaced west into Arizona, look like the local Welcome Wagon. Quanah Parker was the half white son of the abducted Cynthia Ann Parker, whose own story was the supposed basis for what may be the greatest Western ever filmed, John Ford's The Searchers.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

The last clash between settlers and American Indian tribes was in 1923.

[Guenevere]

Really?
Can you give me more info.

[Chuckster]

I thought I remembered that. I just looked it up to find that the Indian wars were not declared officialy over until 1924.

[Guenevere]

American Psycho is sadistic and beyond disturbing
I don’t recommend it.
( and I saw it on TV, and it was probably watered down)

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

It is Wikipedia but close enough for government work.

Posey's War

That was the same year the Disney Company was founded.

History was not that long ago. :)

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

That was the year of the American Indian Citizenship Act. For the first time American Indians as a group were considered citizens.

(which blows out of the water the anchor baby concept but that is an argument for another thread)

[Flag_This]

"The last clash between settlers and American Indian tribes was in 1923."

If you want to include the Posey War, you might as well include AIM's occupation of Alcatraz in 1969.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

AIM did not occupy Alcatraz, that was IOAT.

AIM was Wounded Knee in 1973.

In fact Wounded Knee was about a corrupt Tribal leader that they felt the BIA (Bossing Indians Around) was protecting.

Those were not considered part of the Indian Wars as they were not between the US military or US civilians and American Indians.

Take it up with the historians.