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New French film raises ghosts of Nazi medical horrors
Agence France Presse ^ | 3 Feb 2018 | Guillame Souvant

Posted on 02/03/2018 8:45:55 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose

A new documentary about the scale of Nazi medical experiments has reopened old wounds in France...trending on Twitter.

Dr Michel Cymes, the star of a French television medical advice programme, believes that the remains of some of the 86 Jews tortured and mutilated by SS doctor August Hirt may still be in the anatomy collection of the University of Strasbourg.

He first raised the theory in his 2015 bestseller, "Hippocrates in Hell",

The remains of Jews on which Hirt tested mustard gas at the Natzweiler-Struthof concentration camp near the Alastian city were supposed to have been buried after it was liberated in 1944.

But after Cymes' claims, the university is now conducting an inquiry using outside experts into the contents of 20 boxes found in its collection which bear Hirt's name.

The Swiss-born anatomist was "one of the worst Nazi figures", according to Dr Raphael Toledano, a specialist on Nazi medical experiments.

He was convinced that the Jewish race was on the point of extinction and wanted to study the skulls of "Judeo-Bolsheviks".

Cymes, both of whose Polish-born grandfathers perished at Auschwitz, said he had little idea how extensive Nazi medical experiments had been until he started his own investigation.

His eyes were opened when he began looking in detail at the Nuremberg trials of 23 doctors which began in 1946, and in particular a postwar account of the Nazis' activities by the French naval physician, Francois Bayle.

When he came to write his own book Cymes said he tried to use his medical knowledge to "describe what the victims would have felt so that people would realise the suffering of these (human) guinea pigs".

Nearly 70 percent of German doctors were members of the Nazi party, according to Cymes' documentary.

(Excerpt) Read more at afp.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Germany; Israel
KEYWORDS: abortion; antisemitism; bioethics; doctors; ethics; euthanasia; france; hitler; holocaust; medicine; nazis; nuremberg; prolife
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1 posted on 02/03/2018 8:45:55 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose

The Japs also did plenty of horrendous experiments on live human captives.


2 posted on 02/03/2018 8:53:44 AM PST by ryderann
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To: ryderann

Indeed they did. I’ve seen pictures of Japanese atrocities, and they are stomach-turning.

I have long been puzzled over the near-obsession with Nazi atrocities, while other horrors, such as those committed by the Japanese, are all but ignored.


3 posted on 02/03/2018 9:00:57 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: ryderann

In these crimes against humanity, how is it that Castro, Mao, Ho and Stalin, et al., get a pass? Ideology? /rhetorical question


4 posted on 02/03/2018 9:01:29 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: ryderann
I was going to ask if Japanese doctors fell under Hippocrates' oath, and if they were mentioned in the film.

IIRC, the Jap MD that founded a pharmaceutical led the biological warfare experiments on POWs and civilians.

He got a pass from the US/Allies because he turned over all of his research on germ warfare.

5 posted on 02/03/2018 9:03:55 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: GoldenState_Rose
From 1933 onwards when Hitler came to power, medical ethics "were turned upside down", Cymes said. "The individual was nothing, the people was everything."

Sounds like leftist thought.

6 posted on 02/03/2018 9:06:06 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: exDemMom

The documentation the Nazis left behind is one factor. We have all of those images we’ve seen over and over again.

And at the risk of interjecting race into it....

Also, the Jewish victims, were European. In fact, one of the observations that Rudolf Hoess, the Commandant of Auschwitz made was that when he saw the Jews heading to the gas chambers, he was astounded how in many cases he couldn’t tell the difference between them and ordinary Germans, and that indeed the physical traits of the Jews were nothing like that shown in Nazi Propaganda.


7 posted on 02/03/2018 9:08:07 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Another good book on the subject is “The Nazi Doctors” by Robert Lifton.


8 posted on 02/03/2018 9:10:40 AM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Sadly, we have some Nazis here: doctors who engage in euthanasia, abortionists and doctors who mutilate perfectly healthy men and women who are delusional about their sex.


9 posted on 02/03/2018 9:18:53 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Fiji Hill
"Sounds like leftist thought."

You aren't supposed to notice. Your average DNC drone would deny it, this week.

10 posted on 02/03/2018 9:19:07 AM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: exDemMom

Japan folded more neatly, perhaps.

Germany remained worrisome in the wake of WWII.


11 posted on 02/03/2018 9:19:55 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: jonascord

Nonsensical too, as the proxy in socialism for the “people” is some super privileged “beloved leader” class if not person.


12 posted on 02/03/2018 9:22:04 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: exDemMom

And also the peculiar attention to the Jewish people, a major victim of Nazism, is a bible thang.

We don’t have that kind of note for victims of the Japanese.


13 posted on 02/03/2018 9:28:57 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Calvin Locke
He had actually planned a plague attack against the US west coast, had tested the mortality rate of various diseases on Chinese cities which the Japs seeded with bio weapons before withdrawing ( est 250,00 deaths)

He had a weapon ( special bombs designed to deliver millions of plague bearing fleas) all developed at special bases in Manchuria. Which housed camps of US and Chinese prisoners on whom bio weapons were tested.

All he lacked was a long range delivery system. The Japs had prototype aircraft but had not yet gone into production. What stopped this. The US bombing of Hiroshima.

Shiro Ishii. Tortured and killed hundreds of thousands including US POW Never prosecuted for war crimes.

( History Channel. Secrets of the Axis)

14 posted on 02/03/2018 9:30:00 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Germany is still worrisome...


15 posted on 02/03/2018 9:30:41 AM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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To: exDemMom

Japanese people, and those they murdered, don’t control the media.


16 posted on 02/03/2018 9:33:54 AM PST by EEGator
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To: rrrod

The new German thrill devil du jour may be, well, Allah.


17 posted on 02/03/2018 9:35:39 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: rrrod

So is Japan
They have no permanent friends
Only permanent interests
They are doing a good job at renting us
All those westpac nations that suffered for a century or more under Japan would not be willing to go to war to defend Japan
Only western interests in Japan


18 posted on 02/03/2018 9:38:10 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: Slyfox

Excellent book.


19 posted on 02/03/2018 9:38:21 AM PST by ameribbean expat
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To: exDemMom

Because the Germans were supposed to be civilized, but proved themselves to be the most disgusting savages of all.


20 posted on 02/03/2018 9:39:44 AM PST by babble-on
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