Russia livid over Israeli bill to recognize Ukrainian genocide

Arutz Sheva ^ | 7/2/18 | Mordechai Sones

[Rashputin]

". . . and I hope appreciated by Ukranians."

Maybe a torch lit parade through Kiev to show their affection and gratitude ?

[SeeSharp]

Walter Duranty is unavailable for comment....

As is the New York Times.

[SeeSharp]

Well I guess the “we didn’t mean it” defense is progress of a sort. The Russians used to say they didn’t do it, the Soviets did it.

[The Antiyuppie]

“Maybe a torch lit parade through Kiev to show their affection and gratitude ?”

Nothing involving fire, please.

[SkyDancer]

Hmm, well that’d leave out Turkey and the Armenian massacre.

[The Antiyuppie]

The ugly truth is, that a lot of central and Eastern European citizens “helped out” the Nazis during the war, apparently not realizing that they were very clearly next on Hitler’s list.

Just as bad, many central and Eastern European countries persecuted, pushed out,(and sometimes killed off) their German-speaking minorities after the war, even those who had fought WITH them. This went on for nearly the rest of the 1940’s.

But again, that’s Europe, and fortunately, my relatives left all of that baggage before the Russian Revolution.

[The Antiyuppie]

“Well I guess the “we didn’t mean it” defense is progress of a sort. The Russians used to say they didn’t do it, the Soviets did it.”

After WWII, the Germans said that the Nazis did it. After the fall of the USSR, the Russians say that the Soviets did it. Seems to be a pattern here...

[SeeSharp]

After WWII, the Germans said that the Nazis did it. After the fall of the USSR, the Russians say that the Soviets did it. Seems to be a pattern here...

At least in the case of the Germans there was a different set of ruling elites in charge after the war. The people governing Russia today are the same people who were in charge of the Soviet Union.

[ichabod1]

thank you

[ichabod1]

And just because both sides were taught to punish their enemies. Same lessons, different sides.

[ichabod1]

True, but how can you calculate the pressure those people were under. One may be able to make accusations against individuals, living or dead, but to say the present day democratically elected sovereign government of a country that was at the time rent asunder by German AND Soviet invasions is a bridge too far and must be the result of an underlying agenda.

[Yulee]

“I really don’t know why Russia today should feel defensive about what Stalin and the Soviet Union did in the 1930s. It happened. It was bad. Just admit it and try not to do it again. How hard is that?”

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Same thing applies to Turkey!

The problem is that in both countries those in power, cannot allow the evil done by their predecessors to be acknowledged, since a lot of their support views the acts as good (Communist, or Muslim Caliphate).

[Panhandle.deporable]

Why is isreal pushing for this bill so hard? Seems stupid to alienate Russia given what’s going on in the middle east.

[SJackson]

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Not sure Israel needs a bill oversomething predating their modern existence as a state, but if they want to, that's fine. It is a fact.

[rmlew]

Russia chooses slavery over freedom. They see freedom as anarchy and loves the strong leader even if they kill them. Ivan IV (the Terrible) and Stalin (a Georgian) are loved for their mass murder, because they made Russia strong.
The great tragedy of Russia is that it was dominated by Muscovy instead of Novgorod. Western looking Novgorod was cosmopolitan, and had a better claim since its old city was Holmgard, the original capital of the fist Rus before Kiev.

[NorseViking]

“” “” Someone needs to tell Putin that Russia is incapable of intimidating Israel.”” “”

Israel is pretty much capable to put down an idiot who introduced the bill on its own.