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Right revolts on budget deal
The Hill ^ | 7 FEb 2018 | Scott Wong and Melanie Zanona

Posted on 02/08/2018 5:03:50 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon

House conservatives on Wednesday revolted against a massive bipartisan deal to raise the debt ceiling and bust spending caps, complaining that the GOP could no longer lay claim to being the party of fiscal responsibility.

“I’m not only a ‘no.’ I’m a ‘hell no,’ ” quipped Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.), one of many members of the Tea Party-aligned Freedom Caucus who left a closed-door meeting of Republicans saying they would vote against the deal.

It’s a “Christmas tree on steroids,” lamented one of the Freedom Caucus leaders, Rep. Dave Brat (R-Va.).

“This spending proposal is disgusting and reckless — the biggest spending increase since 2009,” conservative Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) tweeted after the meeting. “I urge every American to speak out against this fiscal insanity.”

The debt hike, in particular, is giving conservatives “heartburn,” said Rep. Dennis Ross (R-Fla.), a member of the GOP vote-counting team.

The swift backlash from fiscal hawks means that Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and his leadership team will need dozens of Democratic votes to help get the caps-and-funding deal through the lower chamber to avert a government shutdown set for midnight Thursday.

At the same time, some Republicans predicted a majority of the majority would back the package.

Former Republican Study Committee (RSC) Chairman Rep. Bill Flores (R-Texas), who said he will probably support the package, estimated that about two-thirds of the lawmakers who spoke at the microphones during the closed-door meeting actually voiced support.

Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the current Freedom Caucus chairman, predicted that the budget deal will get support from a majority of the majority, but not enough to pass without Democratic votes.

It’s unclear how many Democrats will support the plan without concessions from Ryan, given immigration demands from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

As Senate leaders announced their bipartisan agreement, Pelosi was on the floor threatening to oppose the emerging budget deal without a commitment to consider legislation in the House to protect young immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children, known as “Dreamers.”

But there are a lot of other items in the package that are attractive to Democrats, including money for the opioid crisis, disaster aid, more Children’s Health Insurance Program funding, community health center funding and the nondefense spending boost.

“We would need votes coming from both ways,” said Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.). “Pelosi I guess won’t vote for it, but … I do think we will have a number of Democrats that would break.”

It’s also possible more Republicans will back the legislation given opposition from Pelosi.

Rep. Mark Walker (R-N.C.), current RSC chairman, acknowledged in a tweet that the deal is “a struggle for any one with fiscal concerns,” but said he was more inclined to support it “the longer Nancy Pelosi bloviates on the House Floor.”

The deal between Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) calls for raising the debt ceiling through March 2019 and busting budget caps imposed by the 2011 Budget Control Act. It would boost funding for the Pentagon and domestic programs by about $300 billion over current levels over the next two fiscal years, but lawmakers said only about $100 billion of that would be offset.

The Bipartisan Budget Act also calls for an additional four years of funding for a popular children’s health program; $90 billion in additional disaster aid for hurricane-ravaged Florida, Puerto Rico and Texas; billions more to fight the opioid epidemic and funding for community health centers that serve the poor and uninsured.

The legislation would keep the government funded for another six weeks, through March 23. That should give lawmakers enough time to write an omnibus spending bill to fund the government for the rest of the fiscal year.

Many fiscal hawks who were complaining the loudest Tuesday were among those lawmakers who rode an anti-spending, anti-debt Tea Party wave to Washington during the 2010 and 2012 cycles.

Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.) described the atmosphere inside the GOP conference room as “tense,” while Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said it was “kind of depressing” to think Republicans could be responsible for adding billions of dollars to the deficit when they control all the levers of power in Washington.

“It’s too much money,” Perry said.

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) quipped that fiscal hawks might now be an “endangered species.”

Meadows and Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Warren Davidson (R-Ohio) were among the members who stood up during the conference meeting to vent their frustration, lawmakers in the room said.

Retiring House Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas), a close Ryan friend, also railed against lifting the debt ceiling, sources said.

Jordan, a former Freedom Caucus chairman, said earlier in the day that he was disappointed by the tentative deal and expressed surprise that Ryan — who has staked his political career on being a fiscal hawk — would go along with the proposal.

“It’s a terrible deal,” Jordan said. “I never thought Speaker Ryan would be supportive of this … I just never thought the Speaker would go here with these high numbers.”

Speaking to reporters after the meeting, Brooks slammed the deal as a “debt junkie’s dream.”

“I don’t know if we have enough votes amongst the members to stop this legislation,” the outspoken Alabama conservative said. “All I know is that unfortunately those who vote for this bill are betraying our country’s future and they are selling out our kids and our grandkids.

“I am baffled why the Republican Party has turned into such a big spending party. It is one thing to spend money; it is another thing to spend money you don’t have,” Brooks went on. “No American family can operate that way; no American business can operate that way, and it is folly to believe that the United States of America can operate that way.”

Some defense hawks were also upset over the proposal because of the inclusion of the debt ceiling.

Rep. Bradley Byrne (R-Ala.), a member of the House Armed Services Committee, said he was prepared to swallow the spending boost for domestic programs in exchange for the military bulk-up, but he was thrown off by raising the debt ceiling as part of the deal.

He declined to take a position on the package until he sees the final details, however.

Part of Ryan’s pitch to the conference, according to lawmakers who attended, was that the budget deal not only delivers a long sought-after spending boost for the military, but it also clears the way for an honest debate over immigration if lawmakers don’t have the debt ceiling, the threat of government shutdown and other unresolved issues looming over their heads.


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One thing that RINOs and Dems always agree on is spending money we don't have.
1 posted on 02/08/2018 5:03:50 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

This bill is no different than Obama. Shut it down.


2 posted on 02/08/2018 5:05:37 AM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

All of this money and no budgeting for a wall. At $15B it isn’t even a rounding error.


3 posted on 02/08/2018 5:07:50 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
...the GOP could no longer lay claim to being the party of fiscal responsibility.

That died years ago.

4 posted on 02/08/2018 5:10:22 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Trump supports it, what a RINO that guy is.


5 posted on 02/08/2018 5:10:46 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Heard upChuck Schemer on radio this morning saying he likes the bill. If Schemer likes it you know it isn’t only a bad deal it’s a terrible, awful, horrible deal.


6 posted on 02/08/2018 5:11:26 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
The swift backlash from fiscal hawks means that Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and his leadership team will need dozens of Democratic votes to help get the caps-and-funding deal through the lower chamber to avert a government shutdown set for midnight Thursday.

And the price of that will be a vote on whatever DACA plan comes out of the Senate.

7 posted on 02/08/2018 5:11:52 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: babble-on

Gen. Mattis, too. What a effin RINO!


8 posted on 02/08/2018 5:11:57 AM PST by babble-on
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To: DoodleDawg

That’s how the sausage is made.


9 posted on 02/08/2018 5:12:32 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Is it possible for a department NOT to spend allocated money? My answer is yes. In the military we always saved our money till the end of summer and then we spent like hell so we wouldn’t have our budget cut the next year.

Who decides that departments will not spend all their money? POTUS

I would trust Trump not to spend money frivolously. He hates that. He’s the only guy I would trust in that regard. So, to take stress off of our military I would be in favor of the House wittling these total amounts down a bit but passing it. Only because of Trump and only if he calls for it.


10 posted on 02/08/2018 5:13:39 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: central_va

Serious DC drama today—House and Senate and WH need to sign _something_ by midnight tonight or another government shutdown.


11 posted on 02/08/2018 5:13:53 AM PST by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: babble-on
That’s how the sausage is made.

Yup. It ain't pretty, but it is what it is.

12 posted on 02/08/2018 5:13:57 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

The GOP controls three branches of government yet are spending like drunken Eagles fans. The FedGov is destroying our grandkids Liberty.

Spit.


13 posted on 02/08/2018 5:14:46 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

You’d think the RINOS would be smart enough to add the wall as a sweetener. The fact that they didn’t do that shows they are completely in bed with the globalist cabal.


14 posted on 02/08/2018 5:16:22 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: DoodleDawg; babble-on

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>>That’s how the sausage is made.

Yup. It ain’t pretty, but it is what it is.
>

If/whenever Fedzilla is contained by A1S8 again, *that’s* how the sausage is made (better yet, restore the Gold Standard).

This is soylent green...


15 posted on 02/08/2018 5:24:33 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Paul Rino is even worse than John Boehner. A truly disgusting and evil con artist.


16 posted on 02/08/2018 5:25:41 AM PST by jpl ("You are fake news.")
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To: babble-on

He supports funding necessary training and new equipment for our troops


17 posted on 02/08/2018 5:32:35 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: babble-on

Trump appears to like a deal. Good deal or bad deal, whatever....


18 posted on 02/08/2018 5:33:14 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
“some Republicans predicted a majority of the majority would back the package”

Meaning, as we all knew already, most of the Republicans are big government proponents just like their Dim buddies. They just want to spread out the largesse a little differently.

19 posted on 02/08/2018 5:35:42 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: babble-on
Support our President and our military; conservatives who only raise money for their own interests and lose, not so much.
20 posted on 02/08/2018 5:36:38 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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