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Another shutdown nears: Live updates
CNN ^ | Feb. | Meg Wagner and Veronica Rocha

Posted on 02/08/2018 8:09:30 PM PST by Innovative

Senate leaders reached a two-year budget deal, but Sen. Rand Paul is holding up a Senate vote. Congress must pass a deal before midnight to avoid a shutdown.

The government will shut down. The Senate is in recess until 12:01 a.m.

The Senate has gone into recess until 12:01 a.m. ET, which means the government will shut down at midnight. The next procedural vote to advance the budget deal will not happen before 1 a.m. ET.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: budget; chuckschumer; maga; newyork; randpaul; schumershutdown; senate; shutdown; shutdownchuck; shutdownschumer; upchuckschumer
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To: xrmusn

Shut it down.


41 posted on 02/08/2018 9:19:55 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small fee.)
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To: Innovative

I want to address 8 billion for the
“ opioid crises” . I propose zero and prison for users. Addiction is not a germ or a disease. It is a character weakness. It is a ramification of a person’s repeated bad decisions. I dont care if you mke bad decisions. That is your business.
But understand that i dont want to
pay for your bad decisions. Zero , nothing, nada, nunca!! Make good decisions!! Why borrow from the lucky children born and not murdered by the mother and her hinchman to pay for your weak character?


42 posted on 02/08/2018 9:22:13 PM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall" DJT)
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To: cyclotic

Nasa is non essential !! I assure you.


43 posted on 02/08/2018 9:24:29 PM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall" DJT)
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To: Jane Long

Exactly right.


44 posted on 02/08/2018 9:25:47 PM PST by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election. Podesta the molest)
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To: Innovative

What is in the 650-plus page bill? I just read a bit and seems no one is really talking details beyond “increases”. Does it fund Planned Parenthood? Public Broadcasting? Etc. Does it have limits as well, like one of the previous tried to box Trump in on immigration? Seems like this is “funding” but without the details that are likely politically sensitive if people were paying attention. Anybody read a summary of what is/isn’t included?


45 posted on 02/08/2018 9:30:30 PM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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To: cyclotic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv5EKs-9CaM

Interesting things for inquiring minds. There’s a lot more. Very entertaining, but not necessarily true. Who knows? OWK?


46 posted on 02/08/2018 9:35:02 PM PST by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election. Podesta the molest)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks Innovative.

47 posted on 02/08/2018 9:47:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Innovative

To follow tomorrow.


48 posted on 02/08/2018 9:54:45 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Enchante

I like it—Weiner, Holder. Will both be out of jail to run?


49 posted on 02/08/2018 9:58:08 PM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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To: Innovative

Rand has just made sure this will be seen as a Republican shutdown.

The media will run with that as far as they can, and it could conceivably impact the elections this fall.

I don’t like parts of this bill either. I’m not convinced it’s a good idea to force a shutdown.

Paul will look good to some Conservatives, but he’s going to be savaged by the media, and the party will get major blow-back.

The shutdown a few weeks ago was blamed on the Democrats, and that will not be remembered a week from now.

Paul just reset the situation, and it’s not going to put us in a good light.


50 posted on 02/08/2018 9:59:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: raiderboy
I want to address 8 billion for the “ opioid crises” . I propose zero and prison for users. Addiction is not a germ or a disease. It is a character weakness. It is a ramification of a person’s repeated bad decisions. I dont care if you mke bad decisions. That is your business.

If you simply wanted to jail the addicts you still have those attendant costs (compared prison costs per bed to drug treatment?), as well as social services costs incurred finding and maintaining homes for displaced children. It's simply not a situation where the costs are, or ever can be, borne entirely by the addict. I get the psychological appeal of imagining that scenario, but it's fantasy. Real world is a sadder place.

51 posted on 02/08/2018 10:01:33 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: raiderboy

I disagree. Many decent people who have accidents,injury, etc are prescribed opioids. Some walk away after the need is gone others can’t. I work with a girl who’s life is unraveling. It’s painful to watch.


52 posted on 02/08/2018 10:01:33 PM PST by lovesdogs
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To: Innovative

Latest:

Senate votes to reopen the government, sending budget deal to the House

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/08/politics/budget-vote-congress-shutdown/index.html


53 posted on 02/08/2018 11:29:49 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Ping


54 posted on 02/08/2018 11:38:50 PM PST by Lee Enfield (We aren't tired of winning, they aren't tired of whining. I'm comfortable with that.)
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To: raiderboy; lovesdogs
"Addiction is not a germ or a disease. It is a character weakness. It is a ramification of a person’s repeated bad decisions."

Or it's a 'ramification' of a young man or woman who wears the country's colors with pride downrange and gets something blown off. On the battlefield, they get a morphine shot or shots. When they get to the field hospital, they get more opiates because they work. Fast.

The legs or arms or whatever are left in a bag in a pile for the incinerator while the remaining Soldier, Sailor, Marine or Airman is transported to a real hospital in Germany. There, they get more. Back stateside, after a half dozen surgeries, they get put in recovery in a nice hospital. And are prescribed painkillers and physical therapy. Get the new prosthetic.

Then, when they leave the hospital, they get fifteen days of pain pills. No mas.

No treatment for the withdrawal of months on opiates - just cold turkey. I guess that's when the "character weakness" and "repeated bad decisions" come in?

Raiderboy says, "weak character".

Raiderboy - I say you need to widen your aperture and understand some things don't fall under your generalizations.

I don't think you're a stupid person, or a bad person, but until I see otherwise you are a holier-than-thou ignorant...well, you get the picture. I won't call you worse names because I respect your intellect elsewhere on FR. But you really need to reconsider your position here.

I encourage you to be more compassionate and understanding.

FReegards

Kit

55 posted on 02/08/2018 11:57:44 PM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed...)
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To: Innovative

Not that I’m complaining, far from it, but it is surprising that Lyn’ Ted is completely silent in past weeks and really month or so. About the time that members of Congress predatory behaviors were being outed. Figure might be related. Else, Lyn’ Ted finally realized no one likes him and everything he touches ends in failure, and has finally decided to STFU. Good riddance to him and his lies and backstabbing. Anyway, just musing at the welcomed silence from Lyn’ Ted.


56 posted on 02/09/2018 12:14:16 AM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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To: raiderboy

What an a$$


57 posted on 02/09/2018 12:29:28 AM PST by mn-bush-man
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To: Innovative

It’s only an additional $1 trillion on our kids and grandkids credit card.


58 posted on 02/09/2018 3:26:48 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Innovative
what do we expect from a bunch of traitorous bastards who cannot even keep a check book up to date.

Texas secede. only recourse besides full out cw. Texans, support #texit.

59 posted on 02/09/2018 3:42:07 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: Innovative

I’m pulling for a shutdown, but I want it to last at least a week. I have to go to a conference in Arlington next week and was hoping for light traffic!


60 posted on 02/09/2018 4:26:18 AM PST by Hurricane Andrew (There are no evil thoughts except one: the refusal to think.)
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