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Posted on 02/08/2018 8:09:30 PM PST by Innovative
Senate leaders reached a two-year budget deal, but Sen. Rand Paul is holding up a Senate vote. Congress must pass a deal before midnight to avoid a shutdown.
The government will shut down. The Senate is in recess until 12:01 a.m.
The Senate has gone into recess until 12:01 a.m. ET, which means the government will shut down at midnight. The next procedural vote to advance the budget deal will not happen before 1 a.m. ET.
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Shut it down.
I want to address 8 billion for the
opioid crises . I propose zero and prison for users. Addiction is not a germ or a disease. It is a character weakness. It is a ramification of a persons repeated bad decisions. I dont care if you mke bad decisions. That is your business.
But understand that i dont want to
pay for your bad decisions. Zero , nothing, nada, nunca!! Make good decisions!! Why borrow from the lucky children born and not murdered by the mother and her hinchman to pay for your weak character?
Nasa is non essential !! I assure you.
What is in the 650-plus page bill? I just read a bit and seems no one is really talking details beyond “increases”. Does it fund Planned Parenthood? Public Broadcasting? Etc. Does it have limits as well, like one of the previous tried to box Trump in on immigration? Seems like this is “funding” but without the details that are likely politically sensitive if people were paying attention. Anybody read a summary of what is/isn’t included?
Interesting things for inquiring minds. There’s a lot more. Very entertaining, but not necessarily true. Who knows? OWK?
To follow tomorrow.
I like it—Weiner, Holder. Will both be out of jail to run?
Rand has just made sure this will be seen as a Republican shutdown.
The media will run with that as far as they can, and it could conceivably impact the elections this fall.
I don’t like parts of this bill either. I’m not convinced it’s a good idea to force a shutdown.
Paul will look good to some Conservatives, but he’s going to be savaged by the media, and the party will get major blow-back.
The shutdown a few weeks ago was blamed on the Democrats, and that will not be remembered a week from now.
Paul just reset the situation, and it’s not going to put us in a good light.
If you simply wanted to jail the addicts you still have those attendant costs (compared prison costs per bed to drug treatment?), as well as social services costs incurred finding and maintaining homes for displaced children. It's simply not a situation where the costs are, or ever can be, borne entirely by the addict. I get the psychological appeal of imagining that scenario, but it's fantasy. Real world is a sadder place.
I disagree. Many decent people who have accidents,injury, etc are prescribed opioids. Some walk away after the need is gone others can’t. I work with a girl who’s life is unraveling. It’s painful to watch.
Senate votes to reopen the government, sending budget deal to the House
Or it's a 'ramification' of a young man or woman who wears the country's colors with pride downrange and gets something blown off. On the battlefield, they get a morphine shot or shots. When they get to the field hospital, they get more opiates because they work. Fast.
The legs or arms or whatever are left in a bag in a pile for the incinerator while the remaining Soldier, Sailor, Marine or Airman is transported to a real hospital in Germany. There, they get more. Back stateside, after a half dozen surgeries, they get put in recovery in a nice hospital. And are prescribed painkillers and physical therapy. Get the new prosthetic.
Then, when they leave the hospital, they get fifteen days of pain pills. No mas.
No treatment for the withdrawal of months on opiates - just cold turkey. I guess that's when the "character weakness" and "repeated bad decisions" come in?
Raiderboy says, "weak character".
Raiderboy - I say you need to widen your aperture and understand some things don't fall under your generalizations.
I don't think you're a stupid person, or a bad person, but until I see otherwise you are a holier-than-thou ignorant...well, you get the picture. I won't call you worse names because I respect your intellect elsewhere on FR. But you really need to reconsider your position here.
I encourage you to be more compassionate and understanding.
Not that I’m complaining, far from it, but it is surprising that Lyn’ Ted is completely silent in past weeks and really month or so. About the time that members of Congress predatory behaviors were being outed. Figure might be related. Else, Lyn’ Ted finally realized no one likes him and everything he touches ends in failure, and has finally decided to STFU. Good riddance to him and his lies and backstabbing. Anyway, just musing at the welcomed silence from Lyn’ Ted.
What an a$$
It’s only an additional $1 trillion on our kids and grandkids credit card.
Texas secede. only recourse besides full out cw. Texans, support #texit.
I’m pulling for a shutdown, but I want it to last at least a week. I have to go to a conference in Arlington next week and was hoping for light traffic!
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