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Rand Paul Considers Sponsoring Hard-Line House DACA Bill
Lifezette ^ | Feb 13, 2018 | Brendan Kirby

Posted on 02/14/2018 2:42:28 AM PST by 11th_VA

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To: Fai Mao

Rand Paul in 2024!


21 posted on 02/14/2018 6:01:05 AM PST by cowboyusa
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To: sickoflibs

There was never a EO from Obama or Trump. Just policy.


22 posted on 02/14/2018 7:43:21 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: glock rocks

“Veto bait”

Anything Flake and Durbin come up with will never be vetoed.

Because it will NEVER pass the Senate, much less the House.

Now, in deference to Republican Senators, they ARE between a rock and a hard place.

If they don’t pass an unconditional amnesty their donors will abandon them. If they do, their voters will abandon them.

We’re like to see, with certainty, just how low a Republican can go.

Prepare to be shocked.


23 posted on 02/14/2018 8:11:33 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: 11th_VA
The debate kicked off Monday, but Paul noted Tuesday on “The Laura Ingraham Show” that all of the proposals extend amnesty far more widely than the Securing America’s Future Act sponsored in the House last month by Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), Rep. Rául Labrador (R-Idaho), and others. Unlike the proposals discussed so far in the Senate, the Goodlatte bill offers work visas — but not a path to citizenship — for the 690,000 young adult illegal immigrants currently enrolled in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

I didn't care much for Rand Paul when he was first elected to the Senate, as he seemed like a capital "L" Libertarian rather than a conservative. Some Libertarians are worse than Democrats and establishment Republicans on immigration.

However, over the years Rand Paul has become much more of a Constitutional Conservative who has more often than not come around to the right side of most issues.

On DACA, I would just as soon not see any compromise to allow them to stay, but the House Bill that Paul is offering to sponsor is actually an improvement over what the President offered. It promises legal residency to about 700K anchor babies, as opposed to a path to citizenship for 1.8 million. That's the most we should offer the Democrats in exchange for a border wall, an end to chain migration, and an end to the lottery. If we're stuck with DACA anchor babies because of a need for political compromises, so be it, but we shouldn't expand DACA nor should these people ever be given citizenship or the vote - that just invites future illegals to come here in the hope of getting the same.

24 posted on 02/14/2018 8:23:08 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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RE:”There was never a EO from Obama or Trump. Just policy.”

Source?

Wika says
“The policy was established by executive action rather than legislation, however, participating individuals are still commonly referred to as DREAMers after the DREAM Act”
Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals

Anyways the lib judge stopped Trump so we dont need to make them citizens now.

25 posted on 02/14/2018 8:23:59 AM PST by sickoflibs (Message to Trump: Your buddy Linda (Lindsey) Graham stabbed you in the back!)
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To: 11th_VA

Even that bill isn’t at all “hard line”.

It creates many new work visas while legalizing Barry’s DACA “kids”—who you know will end up as voters and citizens, too.


26 posted on 02/14/2018 8:27:47 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: sickoflibs
'The policy was established by executive action rather than legislation'

That's just policy. DHS put out a memo. There is no record of a EO from trump or Obama with daca. Trump had his own memo.

27 posted on 02/14/2018 8:34:07 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: cowboyusa

Hell no. He hates the military.


28 posted on 02/14/2018 8:41:26 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: PIF

In other words, it is meaningless fluff. Illegal immigration will increase. The Uniparty wants the Republic destroyed.


29 posted on 02/14/2018 9:28:03 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: PIF
Apparently the current Senate bill does not end Chain Emigration or the Visa Lottery (just ‘reforms’ them), nor does it end DACA. It does supply money for a border barrier and for more enforcement. So this is like all the other previous Immigration bills - the first parts (immigration) get enacted and the second parts (barriers and enforcement) never happen or only halfheartedly before they are killed entirely. And so the flood continues.

The current Senate Bill also extends DACA to about 3x the number of those who received it under Obama's executive action, and gives them a path to citizenship rather than just legal residency.

If passed, it will be 1986 all over again - amnesty for illegal immigrants, empty lip service to increased border security etc. Basically ringing the dinner bell for future tides of illegal immigrants.

30 posted on 02/14/2018 10:04:43 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: 11th_VA
rand paul has been all over the place on immigration over the past few years.
31 posted on 02/14/2018 10:35:16 AM PST by JohnBrowdie
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rand paul has been all over the place on immigration over the past few years.

Other than Tom Cotton, who do we have left in the Senate who hasn't talked out of both sides of his mouth on immigration? It seems like everyone else is either an immigration liberal or changes his story every week.

I'm somewhat hopeful in Paul's case, since he seems to have slowly but surely shifted away from the more loopy aspects of Libertarianism towards conservatism, but we'll see. I've learned over the years not to trust any politician.

32 posted on 02/14/2018 10:50:29 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Thanks for posting a rational solution and how to negotiate a better deal than we have now!


33 posted on 02/16/2018 9:51:55 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive of 64+ million Trump Deplorables. You will lose!)
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