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Elizabeth Warren sticks to an old narrative
Boston Herald ^ | February 21, 2018 | William G. Mayer

Posted on 02/22/2018 5:42:49 AM PST by billorites

That’s her story and she’s sticking to it.

Though there is no hard evidence that Elizabeth Warren had any Native American ancestors, the senator continues to claim that that was what her parents told her. In the words of a commercial she ran back during the 2012 election, “As a kid I never asked my mom for documentation when she talked about our Native American heritage. What kid would?” She said pretty much the same thing in her recent speech to the National Congress of American Indians, garnished with a bit more emotion and a promise that she will use future attacks as an opportunity to “lift up the story of your families and your communities.”

Warren’s defense does have a number of things going for it. To begin with, it’s almost impossible to disprove, given that her parents both died more than 20 years ago. It also carries a nice resonance of family values, with the implication that anyone who disputes her story is, in effect, casting an aspersion on her mother and father.

But even if the story plays well among Democratic and liberal audiences, I doubt it will work with moderates, independents and most people who aren’t already favorably disposed toward her.

To begin with, many people actually do challenge the stories and family lore told to them by their parents. They’re known as genealogists. I have in mind not only the thousands of people who do this kind of work on a professional basis, but the far larger number of Americans, who have researched their family history just for the fun of it.

I am one such person. Back in the 1980s, needing a break from my graduate school studies, I spent a few wonderful weeks trying to learn about the various branches of my family tree. Ever since, it’s been something of a hobby, to which I try to devote at least a few days every year.

Like most of the other amateur genealogists with whom I have compared notes, I found that some of those old family stories are true — and some aren’t.

When I was young, my mother told me that her maternal grandmother — my great-grandmother — was an orphan, whose parents had died within just a few days of each other. Sifting through the death records in an Ohio county courthouse, I found that this was true. My great-great-grandmother died on May 20, 1869, her husband on June 4, both of consumption.

But another piece of family lore fared less well. My great-grandmother’s parents were said to have been quite wealthy, but by the time she grew up and took control of her inheritance, her executor had squandered most of the money. It’s a melodramatic story, but I can find no evidence it’s true. Records show that my great-grandmother’s father was a partner in a grocery and merchandise company, probably putting him in the post-Civil War version of the middle class, but no threat to Andrew Carnegie. According to his probate file, his taxable income in 1868 was $200, a reasonable income for that time period but I doubt he spent much time scoping out mansions in Newport, Rhode Island.

But there’s a second and greater problem with Warren’s defense of her past conduct. As long as it only affects her private life and her personal self-image, she can call herself anything she wants. And if she also wants to collect Native American art or contribute recipes to a Native American cookbook, I’m sure most voters would say, go ahead, knock yourself out.

But when she lists herself as a Native American in a law school directory that she knows is used to generate potential candidates for faculty searches, and when that identity is included in affirmative action forms filed with the federal government, she has crossed a crucial line. Now that old family story can (and probably did) have important ramifications for all sorts of very public matters, such as hiring decisions. Harvard Law School also took note of her ethnicity in a public statement issued to defend itself against the criticism that it hadn’t hired any minority women.

For these sorts of purposes, an old family story just won’t do.


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1 posted on 02/22/2018 5:42:49 AM PST by billorites
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To: billorites

That’s the problem with telling lies. You have to keep telling lies and the lies get bigger.


2 posted on 02/22/2018 5:48:15 AM PST by captain_dave
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To: billorites

Grey Beaver could be America’s next Barack Obama.

Neither one has ID to show they are who they claim to be.


3 posted on 02/22/2018 5:49:07 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (The only trannie I want to see is a Muncie 4 Speed M-22 Rock Crusher)
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To: billorites
What? You mean the phony squaw leather clad, feather festooned, farcical imposter is a one-trick pony? What an unsurprise.
4 posted on 02/22/2018 5:49:57 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: billorites

Why not have the DNA tests and see where she really came from? She might even be part Kangaroo for all she knows.


5 posted on 02/22/2018 5:50:29 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: billorites

Princess Gray Beaver Speak with forked tongue


6 posted on 02/22/2018 5:52:41 AM PST by Thibodeaux (The FISA judge is corrupt)
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To: billorites

Part of me wants to see this nasty sea hag outed and ousted. But there’s also a part of me that likes to see a Caucasian punk the affirmative action crowd.


7 posted on 02/22/2018 5:55:47 AM PST by RealVirginia
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To: RealVirginia
I want her to run for President.

Even more of a shrill old shrew than the Hildebeast.

8 posted on 02/22/2018 6:00:08 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites
(That Land of Lakes box? My dad taught all of the family kids when we were young about how to cut out her chest and to fold the knees over to fill in as boobs)

Senator Warren's claims are ludicrous. Show us the DNA. Heck, if she had it done she might get lucky and have some native DNA. Everyone gets some surprises.

9 posted on 02/22/2018 6:03:41 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: billorites

23andMe and all her questions can be answered. So why does she not do it?


10 posted on 02/22/2018 6:04:04 AM PST by TN4Bush
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To: billorites

It’s not like she launched her political career in the home of a domestic terrorist linked to the Weatherman anarchist group tied to several bombings and assorted mayhem.


11 posted on 02/22/2018 6:06:23 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: grania

“Show us the DNA.”

She’d find some way to falsify her sample to get the results she wants.


12 posted on 02/22/2018 6:10:43 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: billorites

I want Fauxcahontas to run for President in the worst way.

Just imagine Lieawatha debating DJT. She’ll try & fail to impose a rule banning any questions about her ancestry.

The Trumpster will have Crockajawea in a hissy fit within moments of debate start. Careful, DJT, she might be packing a tomahawk; you know real Indians prefer blond scalps. Just ask Wild Bill Cody, aka Pahaska.

;^)


13 posted on 02/22/2018 6:13:06 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: grania

Your dad knew how to parent.

14 posted on 02/22/2018 6:13:20 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

Every old lecher’s dream of what an Indian princess should look like. The reality, I fear, was far different.


15 posted on 02/22/2018 6:14:25 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
"Every old lecher’s dream of what an Indian princess should look like"

Yeah, pretty much.

16 posted on 02/22/2018 6:23:40 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

It is one thing to enjoy family lore (in my family, we have been told we are distantly related to the model for the liberty head dime).

It is quite another to use those unfounded stories to steal taxpayer and/or university funds for school.

This tells us fauxahauntis has a basic irreparable moral flaw.

I think it is great she is sticking to it as it will ensure she never sees the presidency.


17 posted on 02/22/2018 6:23:48 AM PST by freedumb2003 (obozo took 8 years to try to destroy us. Trump took 1 to rebuild us. MAGA!!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Why are there Indian Princesses, but no Indian Princes ?


18 posted on 02/22/2018 6:30:30 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: billorites

I suggest that anyone interested in this topic read a series of blogs by a very serious genealogist - who happens to be an Indian/Native American. Bottom line - calling the female Senator from Massachusetts, “Liawatha” or “Fauxcahontas” is pretty much spot on - and Warren KNOWS this, which is why she won’t put the subject to rest with a simple genetic test from 23andMe or ancestrydna. Here’s the site:

http://www.pollysgranddaughter.com/p/elizabeth-warren-information.html


19 posted on 02/22/2018 6:41:31 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: billorites

Thank you for sharing. Those were the good ol’ days, all of us cousins under 12 years old developing senses of humor.


20 posted on 02/22/2018 6:52:04 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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