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Supreme Court divided, Gorsuch mum in case that could deal blow to unions
Fox News ^ | February 26, 2018 | Bill Mears, AP

Posted on 02/26/2018 9:16:44 AM PST by jazusamo

The Supreme Court was sharply divided Monday during high-profile arguments in a case that could deal a blow to public-sector employee unions across the country – and the justice seen as a key vote was not showing his hand.

At issue are so-called “fair share” fees that nonmembers pay unions to help cover the costs of contract negotiations.

Justices split on the issue 4-4 when it came up two years ago – but with Justice Neil Gorsuch now filling the vacancy left by the late Antonin Scalia, all eyes were on him Monday morning in Washington.

Gorsuch, however, said nothing during arguments to indicate how he might vote.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: afscme; antoninscalia; gorsuch; illinois; janus; janusvafscme; neilgorsuch; publicsector; scotus; trumpscotus; uniondues; unions
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1 posted on 02/26/2018 9:16:45 AM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

“Gorsuch, however, said nothing during arguments to indicate how he might vote.”

Good! They ALL need to follow his example and SU. Adjudicate the LAW, NO PERSONAL INTERPRETATIONS!

Hear that, John Roberts? A ‘tax’ my Aunt Fanny! Ppfftt!


2 posted on 02/26/2018 9:20:06 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Agreed.

If I had to bet on Justice Gorsuch’s decision I’d bet Janus will win.


3 posted on 02/26/2018 9:23:47 AM PST by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: jazusamo
At issue are so-called “fair share” fees that nonmembers pay unions to help cover the costs of contract negotiations.

Interesting. "Fair share" fees.

To me, that is analogous to requiring every American to pay a certain amount each year to the NRA, whether or not they are a member. After all, the NRA fights for everyone's right to keep and bear arms - even those who do not wish to exercise it.

4 posted on 02/26/2018 9:26:56 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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Yep, that’s a good analogy.

I have a relative involved with public employee unions that says they’re scared to death Janus will win this case, says it’ll put a real dent in their slush funds.


5 posted on 02/26/2018 9:35:15 AM PST by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: jazusamo

Clarence Thomas has spoken up in oral arguments only a couple of times through the years. Perhaps Gorsuch is catching a little Thomas in his style.


6 posted on 02/26/2018 9:35:36 AM PST by lurk
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To: jazusamo

In my home state of Virginia, public employee unions are specifically outlawed (for state and local governments, obviously, there is nothing Virginia can do about the feds).


7 posted on 02/26/2018 9:38:08 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: jazusamo

Nothing to unions. Not one thin dime.

There shouldn’t even be public sector unions.


8 posted on 02/26/2018 9:40:51 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: jazusamo

Public sector unions never should have been ALLOWED.


9 posted on 02/26/2018 9:42:56 AM PST by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Ever notice that it took an Amendment to tax income but per Roberts none was needed to levy a “tax” on not complying with a regulation, something that is properly a fine for which due process is required?


10 posted on 02/26/2018 9:42:58 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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11 posted on 02/26/2018 9:46:33 AM PST by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: jazusamo
If I had to bet on Justice Gorsuch’s decision I’d bet Janus will win.

Right now, the remnant Deep state Obama termites in the bureaucracy are pulling their files on Gorsuch to blackmail him, just like they did to Roberts.

12 posted on 02/26/2018 9:56:57 AM PST by bkopto
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
...in a case that could deal a blow to public-sector employee unions across the country... At issue are so-called "fair share" fees that nonmembers pay unions to help cover the costs of contract negotiations. Justices split on the issue 4-4 when it came up two years ago
Thanks jazusamo.

13 posted on 02/26/2018 9:59:45 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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"At issue are so-called “fair share” fees that nonmembers pay unions to help cover the costs of contract negotiations."

First, the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect union representation. So the Supremes would normally kick this case back to the state imo.

H O W E V E R …

As a consequence of the state allowing itself to be bullied by the union imo, the state taking money out of state paychecks on the union’s behalf, low-information state officials have unthinkingly violated Section 1 of the 14th Amendment (14A) imo by making sure union gets its union dues.



More specifically, the state is violating 14A because paycheck recipients are objecting that the union is doing political things that paycheck recipients disagree with, the state therefore an accomplice in abridging free speech of paycheck recipients imo.

And although the states have given Congress the 14A police power to make sure that states don’t abridge constitutionally enumerated protections, we still have a corrupt, post-17th Amendment (17A) ratification Congress left over from the lawless Obama Administration that will predictably not lift a finger to make punitive laws that discourage state officials from abridging constitutionally enumerated rights.

So regardless that the divided, institutionally indoctrinated Supremes now have the ball in this case, it is actually up to us patriots to pink-slip career federal lawmakers in 2018 elections, replacing them with patriot lawmakers who will commit to doing their job to make laws to prevent activist states from abridging citizen’s rights.

Corrections, insights welcome.

And until the states wake up and repeal 17A, as evidenced by concerns about the integrity of Alabama's special Senate election, patriot candidates need to win elections by a large enough margin to compensate for possible deep state ballot box fraud and associated MSM scare tactics.

Hacking Democracy - The Hack

14 posted on 02/26/2018 10:04:30 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: jazusamo

Reading the headline, I thought that Gorsuch’s mom was a party to the case.


15 posted on 02/26/2018 10:10:08 AM PST by jack308
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It’s the fault of the Brits. :)


16 posted on 02/26/2018 10:14:54 AM PST by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: WayneS
So now outright theft is called "giving your fair share".

Fair is foul, and foul is fair...
17 posted on 02/26/2018 10:17:40 AM PST by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept.)
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To: jazusamo

Gorusch is a man of quiet dignity and decency.

He truly is the best since Scalia.

Thank you President Trump for giving us such a wonderful SC judge. Let’s hope you make many more opportunities to make such appointments


18 posted on 02/26/2018 10:26:34 AM PST by WashingtonFire (President Trump - it's like having your dad as President)
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To: WayneS

Interesting analogy. The argument is that the collective bargaining agreement covers all employees, even those not in the union, so all should share costs in getting it. I always objected to such compulsory “donations” on the basis that people are not allowed to opt out of the collective bargaining agreement. Saying they have no option but to defer to the union to decide their compensation is bad enough, saying that they have to pay for that privilege just adds insult to injury.


19 posted on 02/26/2018 10:31:27 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Russians couldnt have done a better job destroying sacred American institutions than Democrats have)
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To: jazusamo

I personally know relatives who are Teamsters and they too are watching closely and scared shiitless. They are ready to march to DC if it doesnt go their way.

The UNIONS KNOW their money to Demonrats will evaporate and lose political clout if they lose THIS.

I also think Gorsuch will go on vacation after this like what Roberts did after obamatardcare...


20 posted on 02/26/2018 10:48:30 AM PST by beergarden
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