Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 4 March 2018

As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions on the shows.

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Andrew Pollock: on Face the Nation

A man whose 18-year-old daughter was killed during the Parkland, Florida, high school shooting chastised Fox News’ Chris Wallace and other media Sunday for spending too much time focusing on gun control instead of trying to come up with solutions to making schools safer. Andrew Pollack, whose daughter Meadow was one of the 17 students and teachers killed on Feb. 14 at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, made the comments on “Fox News Sunday” after Florida Gov. Rick Scott appeared on the show to discuss his school safety proposal, which includes raising the age on gun sales to 21 and banning the sale of bump-stock attachments.
Mr. Pollack argued that gun control is too divisive an issue and that school safety is something that most Americans would be able to agree upon.
“What you are focusing on — polarizing this event, the murder of these kids — you’re talking about gun control. I just had to listen to you and Gov. Scott talk about gun control,” the father said. “Gun control is a big issue. No one in America is going to come together on gun control, Chris. You didn’t say one thing about fixing it. The American people, we could get together on school safety, but when you polarize it, this event and every other media, we don’t care about gun control right now.”

What’s someone so smart doing on Face the Nation? I might have high hopes for the new moderator, Margaret Brennan!

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“The Sunday Morning Bray”, by Bray!

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. Isaiah 55:8

The Russia probe has gone far enough. There was no collusion and everyone knows it so quit wasting Americas time. This is nothing more than a silent coup being conducted since the wrong candidate won the election and the Establishment needs to keep him from exposing their corruption. Mule-team is perhaps the evilest person in the Beltway although he has surrounded himself with an all-star cast of deceit.

This is the DNC once again attempting to damage a Presidency since they can no longer guarantee to win at the ballot box even though they own the Three Pillars of Propaganda (Academia, Media and the DNC). To imagine President Trump and the Repubs winning the three houses of gummit is a God given miracle in itself, but they fell for the oldest trick in the DNC playbook, allowing an investigation over the flimsiest of charges.

This is the same tactic they used on Reagan with Iran Contra after they passed an anti-arms law entrapping him to help the Communists in Nicaragua. There was the GH Bush flight to Paris in a U2 with absolutely no proof only the seriousness of the charge. They then used it against GW Bush with the supposed naming of a CIA agent who was not even an agent and was revealed by the media previously, but it made for a disabling scandal. That along with the false lying charge destroyed his administration and nearly lost the Iraq war.

Now they have taken it to a new level accusing a President of talking to a Russian agent prior to an election which is perfectly normal and claiming it illegal. This has been done by every candidate for the past fifty years, now have fraudulently made it a crime.

The real crime is concocting this fake investigation. As everyone now knows the Russian Dossier which all of this is built, was bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign and perhaps the FBI through a British ex-spy who was famous for fake research. This should be a crime in itself, but they then went directly to the FBI and turned the fake Dossier to the FBI through agent Bruce Ohr’s wife Nellie who happened to be working for the company which produced the dossier. Wonder if there was a nice bonus check in her name after the dossier was passed off as a bribe to her husband?

They then used the Russian Dossier which was unbelievable on its face if anyone read it, to get wiretaps to spy on the Trump campaign. Here is where Woodward and Bernstein are supposed to come in, but since they are nothing more than DNC hacks, act as if this is nothing new. The FBI shredded an American citizen’s Right to unfair search and seizure and people are now looking at huge fines if not jail. To avoid jail for the fake investigation you are looking at a minimum of $250,000 in lawyer fees since the Special Persecutor has unlimited funds, resources and time. This is the way the DNC has figured out how to stop the Repubs since they no longer win at the ballot box. Who in their right mind wants to get into this phony quagmire?

Their goal now is to use their corrupt judges and lawyers to make Conservatism illegal. They already have the Three Pillars pushing the message of the societal immorality of Conservative thought and speech, now they are validating it through the courts and Special Persecutor. They ignore the fact they should be punished for illegal search and seizure, and go for the crime of talking to a Russian Ambassador and lawyer lobbying for Russian adoption as crimes against the Motherland. This entire fiasco would not make a very good spy novel; unfortunately it is true and has claimed the heads of some very talented conservatives who were adding to the mission of President Trump.

The good news is this is what winning ugly is about.
Everything and everyone is being exposed as New Media is getting stronger and better at exposing the truth. The internet is where most people get their news since they no longer trust Old Media, they would rather get the raw stream and sort out the good from the bad themselves.

This is how people are finding out the corruption inside the FBI and are astounded it was so deep and involved in the election. They were spying on the Trump campaign and passing it on directly to the Clinton campaign or indirectly through the Barak White House. This scandal makes Watergate look like a BB gun compared to a Sherman Tank on levels of breaking the law and still Woodward and Bernstein sleep. Apparently, they can’t seem to find a Deep Throat when it is a Democrat crime.

They had the entire FBI high command tapping phones and who knows what else to upset a Trump campaign which was badly outspent and going against every Clinton trick in the book, yet they blame her loss on a few Facebook posts. Someone should hire these Maldivian trolls for their next campaign mangers if they are that good.
This is what the Democrat Party and the Establishment has come down to. They have given up on the American people who have become wise to their ways and are trying to outlaw Republicans through fake charges and crooked cops and judges. This is today’s Democrat agenda. Forget helping America or Americans, just gum up the works so the Repubs cannot govern and hope you can mess things up enough to regain control by blaming them for not getting things done or their people confirmed.

When Marxism is your god you will do anything to accomplish it as we have seen though the last century.
Theirs is a godless religion based on relativism and dirt worship. You believe you came from an amoeba and will end as worm food. They live such a hopeless existence with nothing in between except emptiness and a continual need to matter by promoting the religion.
Democrats will do anything for that need as they try to accomplish the destruction of America and its replacement with a Socialist utopia like Russia was. So, they prattle on about how horrible President Trump is and how wonderful Barak Hussain was in spite of all the evidence to the contrary. This is their religion and reality is not part of it which is why they cannot understand the rest the country who does not agree with them.

This secular atheism based on eart worship is the Establishment’s national religion. Anyone who does not agree with it is an outcast and to be mocked. Their mocking is their only weapon although they use it well it is having a lessoning affect as people like President Trump understands it and uses it quite effectively himself. He has learned mocking is only effective if you ad it and apologize so if you have a thick skin you can minimize its damage.

This is why they have gone all in on the Russian fraud.
Even though it is backfiring like an ACME rocketed skateboard, like Wiley they will not be deterred from their latest and historically most effective weapon. As long as they have their Three Pillars carrying the water while hiding their crimes they will continue with this ridiculous scheme until the real criminals are sent to prison for the treason they are committing. Otherwise the Party would have to run on their real Marxist agenda and see if America is ready to take the same path as Russia or not.

Pray America woke

Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Bray’s. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.

I’m here Larri, but I’m leaving.

See y’all later.

As usual we will make our own news and dissect the DNC chatting points used in today's shows.

Where did the Russia story suddenly disappear to?
Will there be probing questions about Putin's threat this week?
Why does any U1 transporter remain in power?

Morning AB, All. As always, thank you AB for doing this thread so reliably and keeping the peace with gentle thread policing. Thank you Bray for weekly written wisdom, Thank all yon contributors for excellent commentary to flesh it all out.

Below are the words from my daily political diary. It is quite long so scroll on by if not interested. But do stay around and add your commentary and point of view to the thread.

Check out the commentary and insight of Freedbird for real inside knowledge.

So I erased every daily thing I wrote in my political journal last week and it won't let me re-copy from Facebook. I got an attitude three miles long and two miles wild.

Let us start the Sunday talk with a few of my thoughts from last week's events, as I write in anger and seethe.

First, what's going on between President Trump and Jeff Sessions? Now they are having nasty Twitter wars?

Here's what I think happened. I think Sessions was a plant, told to hang around Trump during his entire campaign and act like he loved the guy.

Sessions campaigned for the position of Attorney General and Trump, being the sort of person who rewards loyalty and good input. Then Trump learned it was all a set up, eventually he fired Comey, Sessions recused himself from the Mueller Russia probe because he was meant to stand aside and let them take Trump down.

Now I'm probably wrong about that but what else would have this scenario happening. Sessions adored Trump during the campaign then betrayed him every way from Sunday once Trump fell for the trap.

Now we have Sessions doing an awful job as most smart people would tell you, and now Trump is in a tweet war with the guy.

The swamp beat Trump on this one guys. He got beat up and so did we all.

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Now about that tariff. China makes a bunch of steel and sells it cheap. Except China's steel is not always that strong and for something, you need good strong steel. You don't want to go flying on an airplane made out of aluminum foil.

Germany also is a big manufacturer of steel.

Indeed steel is an important commodity on this planet, needed for washing machines, to submarines to airplanes.

So when America imports the cheap China steel it does not charge the Chinese a tariff, which is fine.

Except when America exports its steel to China (probably not done very often but should China need good sturdy steel they should get it from America), America does pay a tariff to China.

Folks, it's time, like Trump says, to make America great again. It's time these cheating countries stop taking advantage of us. We send them foreign aid and let some nutjob take over their country we send our armies cause goodness knows they can't do it on their own.

And somebody tell Mark Levin to get over it. No, just because I am in favor of the new tariff does not mean I am anti-American. Levin does sometimes go off the deep end.

Now Mark's argument is that the free market will determine the need for tariffs, not laws passed by American presidents.

In due course the market WILL determine the need for tariffs. Trump is throwing down the gauntlet, letting the world know that America wants to be treated fair. Mark Levin misses the nuances of it all. He just wants to gripe and at times like this I don't want to forgive his anti-Trump stance he took before the election.

Mark wanted to be so cool and he just came off as part of the silly never-Trump crowd.

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Below a picture of a yellow cardinal spotted in Georgia recently. It's evidently a genetic defect but how beautiful is this?

photo yellowcardinal_zpsuw8j0ks8.jpg

Basically, the argument never changes.

Did crazy people kill or did the gun use crazy people to kill?

Sane people suggest that crazy people kill.

Does it really matter if they use a truck and run down people on the sidewalk?Wear a suicide vest and blow up people at an open market? Used explosives to bomb a theatre,deli,business or whatever? Or use knives to slice Israeli citizens after tunneling in from hezzi land.?

Doesn't matter.

It's crazy people vs. the device they use.

The drivebys have successfully changed the venue to mean:

Guns bad, crazy people OK.

It's sad we can't successfully oppose a meme like that.

Marxists are not logical or they wouldn’t believe in socialism. They are emotional so they blame the gun since it’s an easy argument they think they can win.

They are emotional so they blame the gun since it’s an easy argument they think they can win.

They lust for power and dominion. They will do anything, use any excuse to get it.

They would trade one hundred school massacres for the chance to take the three branches of government again.

Two things:

The yellow cardinal was in Alabama, not Georgia.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=yellow+cardinal+was+in+Alabama&src=IE-SearchBox&FORM=IESR3N&pc=EUPP_

I just cleaned up a disaster. I started a fresh pot of coffee before posting the thread, figuring it could brew while I worked. Well, in my tiredness, I forgot to put the class carafe back in the old Mr. Coffee, so the hot coffee spilled everywhere; behind the pot, the bread box, the basket I use to store medicines, down the counter where all the utensil jars and other stuff was, and then dripped onto the throw rug by the stove. What a freakin’ mess. And worse? NO COFFEE!

So I’ve cleaned it all up, and still waiting on that first cup...

Due to my tiredness which led to gross negligence on the coffee, I’ll forgive your slight of the Yellowhammer State.

We will miss you! Stay safe H. Ross!

Great stuff really liked this part:

This secular atheism based on earth worship is the Establishment’s national religion. Anyone who does not agree with it is an outcast and to be mocked. Their mocking is their only weapon although they use it well it is having a lessening affect as people like President Trump understands it and uses it quite effectively himself. He has learned mocking is only effective if you ad it and apologize so if you have a thick skin you can minimize its damage. This is why they have gone all in on the Russian fraud. Even though it is backfiring like an ACME rocketed skateboard, like Wiley they will not be deterred from their latest and historically most effective weapon.

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The Russia probe of fake collusion between Trump and any Russian had a designated job to do of covering up a multitude of sins by the hard lefts leaders formerly in charge.

There are at lest five cover-ups that come to mind probably more:

1.The Seth Rich murder by the DNC.

2.Collusion with Russians by Hillary and bribe taking to the tune of 145 million re Uranium one.

3. Creating a fake Trump collusion with Russia keeps eyes away from what was going on with the CGI: Clinton Global Initiative with corruption at every avenue.

4.The fake corruption targeting Trump keeps eyes away from Huma/Hillary jeopardy of 650k of emails on her lap top which covers every topic under the sun.

5.The fake Trump/Russian collusion hides the real collusion between Obama and Putin where obama had to convince almost a dozen federal agencies to OK the "uranium one" deal giving 20% of our uranium to Russia. Ozero has loads of jeopardy there,so you turn it around on Trump and a willing media obliges.

Brilliant stuff thanks.

Hello all...

Wow what a photo awesome!
Trump putting America first with tariffs.We have been getting screwed for years, hes putting an end to it.

You are up and at 'em early this morning. Sunny bright and gorgeous morning here in southern Maine.

The press seems to be slightly off kilter, losing its harmonious message manipulation.

A post just above asks what happened to the Russian Collusion narrative. It's alive and well. No evidence to back it up, mind you, just noticing that the misleading press has not let go.

Did Trump campaign and Kremlin collude? Congress unlikely to provide answer - USA Toady, March 2

The gist of this article is that the DEMs will say yes, and the GOP will say no, so the allegation is still valid even though Congress is partisan.

Mueller appears to be working on Trump Russia collusion question - MSNBC

Rep. Adam Schiff talks with Rachel Maddow about indications that special counsel Robert Mueller is preparing to engage the matter of the Russian hacking of Democratic e-mails and the central question of Trump campaign collusion with Russia. Mar.02.2018

CNN : March 3, 2018 - 15:00 ET

CABRERA: A Russian woman, who describes herself as a seductress and has bragged about her connections with Russian oligarchs, is saying she can provide links between Russia and President Trump to anyone who can help her get out of prison in Thailand.
CNN's senior international correspondent, Matthew Chance, has more -- Matthew?

Meghan McCain vs. Rep. Adam Schiff, March 1, 2018

REP. ADAM SCHIFF: I've certainly said that there is ample evidence of collusion. ... Bob Mueller will make the decision whether there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt ... It is the job of the Congress to tell the American people what happened. Whether it reaches the standard beyond the reasonable doubt, or whether we merely find clear and convincing evidence of collusion.

Mueller looks to be moving 'up the food chain' to ensnare Trump for potential Russian collusion - Sonam Sheth Mar 1st

Trump is the focus -- indeed, the catalyst -- of the obstruction inquiry. But Wednesday's report marks the first time, according to public knowledge, that prosecutors are eyeing the president as they investigate possible collusion with a hostile foreign power.

Mueller can kick up a firestorm of Russian Collusion reports (speculation) by leaking that his crew is investigating the appearance of DNC e-mails at wikileaks. Indeed, such a kick-up happened last week.