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BREAKING: DOJ Announces Fast and Furious Documents Withheld by Eric Holder Will Be Released
Townhall ^ | 03/07/2018 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 03/07/2018 10:48:49 AM PST by DFG

The Department of Justice announced Wednesday additional documents related to the Operation Fast and Furious scandal during the Obama administration will be released to the House Oversight Committee. The documents were previously withheld by Attorney General Eric Holder, who was voted in civil and criminal contempt of Congress for refusing to turn them over.

“The Department of Justice under my watch is committed to transparency and the rule of law. This settlement agreement is an important step to make sure that the public finally receives all the facts related to Operation Fast and Furious,” Attorney General Jeff Sessions released in a statement.

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To: thoughtomator

A country does not stay a country by officially violating the Rule of Law.


141 posted on 03/07/2018 3:32:07 PM PST by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: arrogantsob

Q sez to trust Sessions and trust Wray.

I’ll do what Q sez.


142 posted on 03/07/2018 3:38:41 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: TigersEye

Well, that’s a given.


143 posted on 03/07/2018 3:41:30 PM PST by Crucial
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To: DFG

Wake me when the indictments come down, and not until.

CC


144 posted on 03/07/2018 3:45:29 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (It don't matter if your heart is in the right place, if at the same time your head is up your a$$)
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To: semantic

“So, I think we can rightfully conclude that the imminent threat of clear and present danger has passed. “

No. The rabid lefty hillary voters and trump haters make up the rank and file of our corrupt stasi state(the administrative state). The left are in firm control and in open rebellion to the Trump admin.

Unless that situation is remedied and the swamp is drained, we’re just whistling dixie.


145 posted on 03/07/2018 3:54:38 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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To: DFG

Wow.. has Rip Van Winkle awoken?


146 posted on 03/07/2018 3:57:52 PM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Thanking the Lord Jesus every day for President Donald J. Trump)
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To: Moonman62

I know.. it’s beyond irritating. I don’t want to get my hopes to high.. Nothing has actually been done yet.


147 posted on 03/07/2018 4:03:01 PM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Thanking the Lord Jesus every day for President Donald J. Trump)
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To: doorgunner69

well I recall that theory. I cannot fathom that kind of evil is possible but nothing else makes sense.


148 posted on 03/07/2018 4:15:03 PM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall" DJT)
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To: semantic

The coup attempt is NOT over.


149 posted on 03/07/2018 4:15:48 PM PST by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: arrogantsob

It turns out that we actually have laws covering sedition and treason, and lack only an Attorney General willing to do his job.

What we have now - the denial of enforcement - is the official violation of the Rule of Law, and if you genuinely cared about it you would be as angry about the situation as I am.


150 posted on 03/07/2018 4:17:46 PM PST by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: Bonemaker

They are being released to a House Committee. That is not even partially relevant to an actual release. These records will be in committee for years.


151 posted on 03/07/2018 4:25:35 PM PST by DrDude
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To: Electric Graffiti

Only God can help us now.. He gave us President Trump.. Pray for more miracles.


152 posted on 03/07/2018 4:28:40 PM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Thanking the Lord Jesus every day for President Donald J. Trump)
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To: DrDude

“They are being released to a House Committee. That is not even partially relevant to an actual release. These records will be in committee for years.”

Sessions is the only one who can do anything about it. He’s just punting.


153 posted on 03/07/2018 4:38:38 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: DFG

RETRIBUTION

Though the mills of God grind slowly
Yet they grind exceeding small
Though with patience He stands waiting
With exactness grinds He all
— Longfellow


154 posted on 03/07/2018 5:07:06 PM PST by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: DFG
The Never-Jeff crowd is being silly as usual. By 'public' he means, for one, Congress. That's what the federal court case was about. DOJeff has been quietly and not so quietly (CA) pursuing Trump's policy goals. And doing a fan-freaking-tastic job of it!

This scandal is much bigger than even most on the Right realize. It was NOT a botched attempt to fix a gun-running problem. The only thing botched was their attempt to hide the fact that they were creating an impression of a gun-running problem. And a gun problem in general.

Probably the reason part of this was sealed by Obama is because he is guilty too. And Holder, several of the Clinton gang, Janet Nap, the ATF, the US Attorney's office and more.

Plus, as any gun/NRA guy knows, it has already been very well documented for many years. And has all the juicy bits you want in a political scandal: conspiracy, big govt secrecy, whistle blowers and retaliation, top admin lies on national TV pressers, in front of congress, murders of Americans, many, MANY murders of never-had-a-chance-to-dreamers and, of course top level cover-ups. ALL already documented. Who knows what else will be released now. But technically it is not needed to pursue the goals all the blood-thirsty folks here desire. Rightfully.

Forget the criminal aspect for a moment (not for long though), the political aspects of the scandal should push gun control off the table for quite some time. And push Holder, JNap, etc out of any dreams of running. And push Obama into the ash heap of history where he belongs.

Far from being just a deadly embarrassing botch job. This was EXACTLY analogous to what people think happens in some of these school/Vegas/etc shooting. It was the Obama admin trying to take your guns away. I'm going to skip a million details, but...

Obama is elected. The 90% narrative is created (this part EXACTLY analogous to NOAA/IPCC/etc and GW, but off topic and not specifically an Obama scandal). The narrative, briefly, was that 90% of guns killing people in MX were coming from the US. Obama, Holder, Hillary, etc were all selling it in '09. It was a lie, naturally, and govt studies here and there proved so. Not a problem for the narrators. Obama, Holder, a US Att named Burke, and a cast of usual suspects devised/conspired to have the DOJ/ATF 'fix' the narrative.

The fix was to, as we all know now, have the ATF, via normal gun dealers, buy guns via straw men/etc and 'walk' them to MX. The phony aspect was that the said it was to trap gangs/warlords. Funny thing is, they 'forgot' to track the guns as Bush did when he, more honestly, tried the same thing a few years earlier - no deaths there. And Obama forgot to work with MX, as Bush did. Ooops!

At this point some people go too far, unless new docs show otherwise, and suggest the Obama conspiracy really did want Americans to die. I don't (currently) believe that part. They were hoping to have MX come bitching when the predictable hundreds of innocents and others died via these walked weapons (not just guns). The blood sacrifice of many, many in MX DID happen, as planned. But before phase II could get anywhere, there was a problem. Phase II (my designation) was to document the deaths, check the serial numbers and than back-stab and blame the gun dealers which they FORCED to sell guns to shady buyers. Some of those gun dealers are well documented as complaining/warning about this.

But, ooops, some of the guns thought it was too hot in MX or something and they walked back. Guns can commit crimes, so I assume they can walk too. Agent Terry was murdered with them. At least one other American killed and others shot too. So the narrative fell apart and the cover-up began. Well, it actually began before that because there were ATF whistler-blowers (Forcelli,Cefalu,etc) and there was retaliation in violation of the Whistleblower Protection Act. But the cover-up was the only thing they cared about after Terry died.

The original goal was to, first, get ATF's "Demand Letter 3" implemented once the narrative took hold. It was just like what Obama/Hold did to MiamiDade/Broward/other cities in that they were created laws, essentially, which they could not get Congress/pubic to create/support. That D Letter was in regard to multiple purchase of 'long guns' which normal people call rifles.

There are at least 10 Tom Clancy novels in there if you have the time to digest everything ALREADY documented. Ask Sharyl Attkisson (she maintains a great list of links) or Katie Pavlich (wrote a book about, YouTubes, etc) or either Wayne LaPierre or probably anyone you know in the NRA.

If our side would quit the childish attacks on our great AG and concentrate on the enemy for a change, this will come to a head just on time to sweep the '18 elections. It this helps any of the silly Never-Jeffs, he is highly qualified as an AG since, he was an AG before, a former US Attorney, long-time 95% rated conservative Sen from a very conservative state, doing everything policy-wise that Trump wants. AND has an A+ rating from the NRA - for crying out loud, he is on OUR side, not the swamp and he is not after our guns.

He might seem slow on the docs but there are legal reasons for that which any reasonable person should understand. And Session is the most by-the-book guy you can find. All three branches of govt were involved in the case, it was not a matter of him alone pulling a rabbit out of his hat. Sheesh!

The man is on fire policy-wise. Which I believe is Trump's plan. I can only assume the knives in Jeff's back are rubber and The Don is just pulling one of his 4d naked jedi judo chess moves or whatever. And that the Never-Jeffs are the analogous to useful idiots, though I'd qualify them as useful ignorants. I don't judge them stupid, just overly impatient.

I don't KNOW that to be Trump's plan. But it certainly would make sense. Set the never-sleeps AG on a floor-it-out-of-the-gates policy mission, which I've documented multiple times is the highly successful and true case for those with eyes to see. THEN start the political exposure phase and eventually crushing of the political enemies. These political folks, unlike MS-13, aren't going anywhere in the meantime. Neither are the facts/docs. No real danger of escape. And high profile escapes to foreign lands probably would only help our political case.

Besides, if you think DOJeff is somehow lazy on this, then what the hell must you think of Trump. For one he's the boss of him. But, more importantly, he's the guy with the megaphone. And the prize we should be keeping our eyes on is political, though that does not mean going light legally.

This case, as mentioned, involves EVERY aspect of political and criminal evil behavior. And is well documented. And goes straight to the top: Obama. That worthless punk even tried to blame Bush for this, of course. And claim Hold fixed the Bush mistake. That was as dishonest, both legally and politically, as you can get.

Bush has a bad idea that did not work but did not kill anybody. Whereas Obama had an evil idea TO kill lots of people, potential dreamers some of them. I almost suspect that is why Trump, who is on the wrong side of DACA, is dragging that out - after some FF exposure he will have a better excuse fore allowing them to stay. Future Prez tweet: "Not safe to send them back to face the illegal Guns of Obama."

As I say there is enough documentation/testimony/emails/etc already out there for The Tweetster to convict them politically and enough to start criminal cases too, for which we have plenty of time. I'd say 2018 thru 2020 should be a good time for that.

I Don't recall if Obama wagged his finger and stared into the camera like Slick Willy while doing it, but... Obama flat out lied in a big presser too and it could be the thing you see replayed a thousand times someday: "My Attorney General has made clear that he wouldn’t have ordered gun running into Mexico.… That would not be an appropriate step by the ATF"

I half expect to find out Holder wears a blue dress.

If you care to look into it more, don't forget the Burke, JNap connection. She was AG of AZ, where most of this occurred. He was part of the Clinton crowd who grabbed our guns with the famous 'assault weapons' ban. And followed JNap to DHS. Rahm E too is in the mix, including on Holders advisory board on gun traffic BS.

I believe fear of new/additional/first time(for some) exposure of the cover-ups, yes plural, are what the Left is worried about most. That is just how politics work. The crime can be horrible, but the cover-up brings you down.

If Trump is half as smart as we all hope, then the analogies are ripe for the political picking. The Broward school shooting happened ALSO because of Obama/Holder mischief and a false narrative. GW is only a thing because of a similar, though less bloody, false and generated narrative full of cover-ups. And, of course, RUSSIA!

If he plays this right, the whole house of cards will fall! But it is not something you accomplish by arresting everybody in reach before the public is on your side.

155 posted on 03/07/2018 5:21:03 PM PST by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: Electric Graffiti

“I’ll give you my honest opinion and I’m never wrong...It’s all over...”

YOU’RE WRONG!

AG Sessions has been in office only just over a year. There’s a bunch of DUmmies here who think that complex prosecutions are executed in days against the SWAMP. If “they” don’t see that happening, nothing is happening.

Well, for those dummies, let me say I’m never wrong. The hammer is about to come down and it’s already started. But the dummies are too stupid to even see the obvious because they’re too busy yelling how nothing is happening and how they know everything they don’t know.

So this is going to be quite entertaining. President Trump is playing chess and we have a bunch of the finest checkers players here.

This is only the beginning and nothing is an accident especially the timing.
As AG Sessions already knows what’s in those FnF docs, the howls of pain won’t be far off.

Can’t wait.


156 posted on 03/07/2018 7:18:28 PM PST by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us ObamaSESSIONS)
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To: DFG

fast and Furious was OK because Obama did it. If Trump did it, it would be the crime of the century


157 posted on 03/07/2018 7:49:47 PM PST by KTM rider ( .......than to post and remove all doubt)
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To: DFG

Why is the DOJ releasing documents? Why aren’t they arresting people? Isn’t that their job to bring people to justice not just release documents so that congress can just review and DO NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING.


158 posted on 03/07/2018 9:00:53 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: Yo-Yo
Only took Jeff a year and two months, but hey, better late than never, right?

To do what? Release some documents instead of indict Holder? Nothing to see here, move along.

159 posted on 03/07/2018 9:02:01 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: Red Badger
It’s a start.

Boy how many times have we heard that one....

160 posted on 03/07/2018 9:02:58 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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