Posted on 03/11/2018 6:49:44 PM PDT by Kaslin
When it was first announced last Thursday that President Trump was to personally meet with North Korea Dictator Kim Jong-un for negotiations, the media’s response varied from optimistic to seething anger. But with some time, it appears as though their consensus is now to denounce the idea as was blatantly obvious on Sunday’s Meet the Press. The entire panel up in arms and fretting that Trump was either going to hand North Korea a victory or blow a gasket at the meeting and start a war.
Moderator Chuck Todd, still bitter because Trump called him a “sleeping son of a b*tch” at a rally the day before, kicked off the discussion with a ridiculously loaded question. “How does any meeting between Trump and Kim not turn into a victory for the North Koreans,” he wondered acting baffled.
NBC’s Andrea Mitchell was aghast at the idea as she was visibly distraught and seemingly hyperventilating. “It's hard to imagine how it doesn't,” she declared. “First of all, they have had a victory by setting the terms and by having the meeting itself, as you were pointing out. This is what all North Korean leaders have wanted. Three generations have wanted a meeting, legitimacy from an American president.”
For all Mitchell’s rambling about a meeting with Trump “legitimatizing” North Korea, where was that complaint when her network was praising their performance and propaganda at the Olympics? An argument can also be made that Kim’s nuclear weapons program, which reportedly can reach Washington, DC, was a form of legitimacy. Add to that, the U.S. was expending the resources to lead an international effort to isolate the communist country.
Meet the Press Panel Freaks: Incompetent Trump Handing NoKo Victory
It’s also highly hypocritical for Mitchell to whine about someone giving legitimacy to dictators when she’s made a career for herself doing just that. As the Media Research Center had previously documented, she was quite fond of Cuba’s former totalitarian Fidel Castro and was an adamant defender of the Iran nuclear deal and stuck up for them as she opposed Trump.
Yet that didn’t stop Mitchell from spouting off and claiming the administration was ignorant of the issues. “The treasury secretary with you repeated the phrase, ‘denuclearization,’ our objective is denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. That is a trap,” she asserted. She also suggested that what the Trump administration was willing to do was leave our South Korean and Japanese allies high and dry in the region.
Yahoo! News columnist Matt Bai chimed in and wanted to let the panel know he had a serious problem with Trump talking to a dictator: the President’s love for such leaders. According to him:
Except, the problem I have, Gene, is that he has at every turn shown a really unsettling appreciation for or at least lack of antipathy toward tyranny and autocracy. If you are going to sit down with tyrants and autocrats, you have to have, I think, as a president, one would think it's a given to have a deep-felt conviction about the supremacy of democracy and I don’t hear that from him.
Mitchell jumped in again to fret about Trump being so unstable he would lose his temper at the meeting. “But he wants results and he will be impatient. And what is the downside if he gets angry at what he experiences? Then it escalates because you have no other options,” she opined.
“Then you don't have diplomacy to go to because you have exhausted your diplomacy. Then things go boom. That's the scary part,” added Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan.
The idea that they would turn down possible peace on the Korean Peninsula just because they detested Trump was absolutely mind-boggling.
NBC Meet the Press March 11, 2018 10:57:01 AM Eastern
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CHUCK TODD: How does any meeting between Trump and Kim not turn into a victory for the North Koreans?
ANDREA MITCHELL: It's hard to imagine how it doesn't. First of all, they have had a victory by setting the terms and by having the meeting itself, as you were pointing out. This is what all North Korean leaders have wanted. Three generations have wanted a meeting, legitimacy from an American president.
It is not prepared. There was no letter, despite leaks there was. We do not yet know what he is really offering. The treasury secretary with you repeated the phrase, “denuclearization,” our objective is denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. That is a trap! The Korean peninsula means we eliminate our nuclear umbrella from our allies. What we want is for him to give up his illegal weapons, not for us to give up our nuclear security umbrella for South Korea and Japan. This just shows you the lack of, shall we say, competence or familiarity with these details. They do not have a south -- a North/South Korean expert. They don't have an ambassador. Their top expert just quit in frustration, I am told, because he could not -- Tillerson would not take him to White House meetings. There's no one in the house who knows this issue.
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EUGENE ROBINSON: What I think is riskier, though, is to have Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un hurling insults and threats at each other.
[Crosstalk]
And to have a U.S. administration talking about the absurd, catastrophic idea of giving a bloody nose to North Korea, some sort of limited strike, that could immediately mushroom into a local Armageddon, basically. So I think, great, if they want to sit down and talk, that's better than this alternative, which is where we seem to be drifting.
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MATT BAI: Except the problem I have, Gene, is that he has at every turn shown a really unsettling appreciation for or at least lack of antipathy toward tyranny and autocracy. If you are going to sit down with tyrants and autocrats, you have to have, I think, as a president, one would think it's a given to have a deep-felt conviction about the supremacy of democracy and I don’t hear that from him.
[Crosstalk}
MITCHELL: One quick point is, he wants results. If he would go into a meeting – and I don't think it's a great idea at the front end. If he would go in saying how our experts will work and do -- this is a get to know you. But he wants results and he will be impatient. And what is the downside if he gets angry at what he experiences? Then it escalates because you have no other options.
PEGGY NOONAN: Then you don't have diplomacy to go to because you have exhausted your diplomacy. Then things go boom. That's the scary part.
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These experts are 100% correct. Trump has no idea how to make deals and control people. Oh wait, he does it all the time. Never mind.
These people are so predictable. Whatever Trump does has to be labeled as a move based on his stupidity, incompetence, etc. Never mind the fact this “dunce” of a president is running rings and then some around all of these learned prep school and Ivy League educated newsreaders!
But but but the State Department is supposed to do the diplomacy thingy. It’s worked so well in the past.
Could there possibly be any more Ignorant a holes in the studio?
Can they fit their stupidity in that small of a space?
I doubt it.
Clinking glasses in appreciation for the billions of dollars she brought to pay him off for awhile.
I don’t get the sense that anyone on this panel of “experts”, and I do not except Noonan, has the faintest clue about foreign policy. I do get the sense they’d happily sell out their own country if it made Trump look bad. This isn’t “fake news”, it’s blatant, unintelligent malice.
These dolts really are shooting themselves in the foot. By setting the bar so low, anything other than our total annihilation by week’s end is a gonna make Trump look like the Peacemaster.
I’ll get flamed for this. Although Albright continued the appeasing/do-nothing policy of four previous presidents, including her boss, it’s hard to denounce that meeting. In some ways, it was unprecedented, that an official U.S. diplomat is clinking glasses with a country who is technically at war with the U.S. And Kim Jung Il was way more ruthless than his son.
“How does any meeting between Trump and Kim not turn into a victory for the North Koreans”
They must think Trump is FDR meeting with Stalin.
How soon they forget, ey?
If Trump announced he was pro-choice, the libtards would instantly become pro life.
Do you guys remember how this same panel of experts relentlessly ripped on obummer for giving Iran a billion dollars in small unmarked bills?
Neither do I.
Foreign policy in the Pre Brass Balls Era consisted of paying off anyone who threatened us.
“In some ways, it was unprecedented, that an official U.S. diplomat is clinking glasses with a country who is technically at war with the U.S. And Kim Jung Il was way more ruthless than his son.”
Clinton and Allbright were fools. But your key point is valid. Dialogue is somewhat useful if for no other reason than to communicate directly to NK what they are risking.
Stupid people.
All they are doing is trying to undermine Trump, befor the meeting even happened.
I can’t believe anyone takes Andrea Mitchell seriously - Or Martha Radditz.
But there are liberals, so......
I’ve heard “experts” on BBC say last week that Trump’s base would turn on him over this meeting.
given that didn’t happen, it looks like FakeNewsMSM have taken on that role for themselves.
these media characters can never regain credibility.
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