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FACT CHECK: New York Times Says There Have Been 1,600 Mass Shootings Since Sandy Hook [VIDEO]
dailycaller.com ^ | 3/22/2018 | Anders Hagstrom

Posted on 03/22/2018 9:20:42 AM PDT by rktman

The New York Times editorial board said that there have been more than 1,600 mass shootings in the U.S. since the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December 2012.

That’s only true if you grant an extremely generous definition of “mass shooting.”

NYT says 1,600, but the left-leaning outlet Mother Jones says only 35, and Everytown for Gun Safety claims there were 156 between 2009 and 2016. The U.S. Congress found just over 300 shootings between 1999 and 2013. They’re all using different definitions of what a mass shooting is.

In layman’s terms, a “mass shooting” may evoke the idea of a random public attack akin to the shootings in Newtown, Las Vegas or Parkland. The definition from The NYT, however, includes instances of domestic violence, drive-by shootings, disagreements at bars and parties, gang violence and robberies. Even the narrower analysis from Everytown, which only counts instances with four or more deaths, found that 54 percent of the mass shooting cases from 2009 to 2016 were related to domestic or family violence.

Using its definition, NYT is technically correct, but four people killed or injured is hardly what Americans mean when they say mass shooting.

Mother Jones’ definition was far more stringent. Its 35 number comes from excluding situations like armed robberies or gang violence and only counts incidents that both took place in public and were carried out by a lone shooter.

The NYT estimate is more than 1,000 “mass shootings” higher than almost any other and includes so many different situations that experts say it’s totally useless for making policy.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglsit; lies
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Well, stretching the truth never hurts now does it? Not when you have a goal in mind.
1 posted on 03/22/2018 9:20:42 AM PDT by rktman
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NON print:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/22/fact-check-new-york-times-mass-shootings/


2 posted on 03/22/2018 9:21:21 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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If you shoot up an ant hill they call it a “mass shooting”.


3 posted on 03/22/2018 9:22:27 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: rktman

DOH! Should be ‘FAct check’, not ‘CT check’.


4 posted on 03/22/2018 9:23:14 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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If two robbers are shot by a clerk during a holdup then the NYT considers it a mass shooting.


5 posted on 03/22/2018 9:23:56 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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NYT had this person on staff to lie for Stalin, so it is not surprising that they are lying today about mass shootings.
6 posted on 03/22/2018 9:24:55 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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Don’t tell yourself that. Tell a moderator. They can fix a title for you.


7 posted on 03/22/2018 9:26:31 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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Have liberals looked at the “on-going” year-round mass-shootings in Chicago?


8 posted on 03/22/2018 9:29:22 AM PDT by adorno
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I wonder, therefore, if they would consider the donut shop scene in “Sudden Impact” a mass shooting as well?


9 posted on 03/22/2018 9:34:52 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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Chicago long ago passed their so-called “common sense gun control” and is now one of the most dangerous cities in the country.


10 posted on 03/22/2018 9:37:11 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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Chicago is one continuous mass shooting.


11 posted on 03/22/2018 9:39:57 AM PDT by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!.)
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"The NYT estimate is more than 1,000 “mass shootings” higher than almost any other and includes so many different situations that experts say it’s totally useless for making policy.

Pretty much sums up anything published by the NY Slimes.

12 posted on 03/22/2018 9:45:30 AM PDT by Be Free (I believe in gun control. The more people that control their own guns, the safer we'll all be.)
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What? Hogg’s Mad Women March/CNN organization put out last week that there have been 1700 school shootings alone since January 1, 2018.


13 posted on 03/22/2018 9:49:39 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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To: Responsibility2nd
They did. 😹🍿🍻🇺🇸
14 posted on 03/22/2018 9:53:28 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Lead (Pb, 207.2000 g/mol) is shot out of the barrel.

Thus, a mass shooting.


15 posted on 03/22/2018 10:03:07 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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I beg all of you on FreeRepublic to view this video of Kentucky’s Governor, Matt Bevin, as he replies to a question from a woman in this audience concerning the FL Mass Shooting. His answer and explanations are pristine on the subject. I think he could be POTUS.

http://www.kentuckynewera.com/multimedia/video/news/youtube_c2674705-960f-52ed-b8d8-9d2c34d514e4.html


16 posted on 03/22/2018 10:27:06 AM PDT by jazzlite (i)
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My Momma always said she never read the Editorial pages in the newspapers. She would look at the cartoon and then read the rest, but never the editorial pages.
After 65 years, I see why. Lies, Damned lies and statistics that are lies.


17 posted on 03/22/2018 10:31:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Thanks​ for the link. That was very good
18 posted on 03/22/2018 10:45:51 AM PDT by digger48
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FACT CHECK: New York Times Says There Have Been 1,600 Mass Shootings Since Sandy Hook [VIDEO]

Fact check in my Universe:
The New York time lies.

Don't be a "Lie" Dump

1592 of those Mass Shootings are between and among gang members and/or the drug sale/use culture...

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Scroll down to video.

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19 posted on 03/22/2018 11:38:56 AM PDT by publius911 (Am I pissed? You have NO idea...)
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To: publius911
😹🍿🍻🇺🇸. Butt, butt, butt.....paper of record.
20 posted on 03/22/2018 12:00:00 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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