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Missouri | Defender with Knife Not Guilty of Murder
Ammoland ^ | 20 March, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 03/24/2018 5:52:37 PM PDT by marktwain

McDaniels defended himself with a knife, stabbing Collins numerous times. Collins died at the scene.

On November 29 of 2016, in St. Louis, Missouri, Terrell McDaniel, 36, was attacked by Robert Collins, 44. Collins was intoxicated and attacked McDaniel with a milk crate. During the affray, McDaniels defended himself with a knife, stabbing Collins numerous times. Collins died at the scene.  From stltoday.com:

According to his lawyer, Joe Whitener, McDaniel told the jury he feared for his life during a street fight. Collins was intoxicated and belligerent when he asked McDaniel for drugs, and McDaniel refused. Collins then tried to attack McDaniel with a Prairie Farms milk crate, Whitener said, and McDaniel stabbed Collins several times, including in the heart.

“He was afraid and he feared that he was going to be beat up very badly,” Whitener said.

Missouri's self-defense law, expanded in 2016, says a person has a right to defend one's self against an attack without a duty to retreat if someone “reasonably” perceives threat of deadly force.

That was the argument Whitener said he made to the jury.

“The jury saw that what Terrell did was reasonable and that he was defending himself,” he said. “Robert started the fight, and Terrell did what he had to do to survive.”

McDaniel was on probation for drug possession charges at the time of the killing.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: banglist; knife; mo; selfdefense
People on probation still have the right to self defense.

It is important that black people know they can get a fair shake at trial.

1 posted on 03/24/2018 5:52:37 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Don’t bring a Prairie Farms milk crate to knife fight.

Make a note.


2 posted on 03/24/2018 5:55:23 PM PDT by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: marktwain

He should have never been charged from the sound of it. JMHO.


3 posted on 03/24/2018 5:56:59 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: piytar

A victory for self defense, but I wonder whether a white guy would have been as fortunate.


4 posted on 03/24/2018 6:01:03 PM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: marktwain

Hey, it’s another Trayvon case.


5 posted on 03/24/2018 6:05:38 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: marktwain

Got milk?


6 posted on 03/24/2018 6:08:03 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: Socon-Econ

See? This is exactly why no one needs an AR15 for self defense! Just use a knife! Duh!

/sarc


7 posted on 03/24/2018 6:09:22 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Moonman62

The defender was black, so it’s OK. Zimmerman was a “light skinned Hispanic”, however. Almost white. No self defense allowed.


8 posted on 03/24/2018 6:09:22 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Socon-Econ

It would be nice to see one FR thread on self defense without a racial comment. Everyone has a right to self defense.


9 posted on 03/24/2018 6:10:06 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalism’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: antidisestablishment

They made it about skin color; the Left-wing media, not us. If Michael Brown was white, or Trayvon Martin, do you really think they would have made it a big deal?


10 posted on 03/24/2018 6:15:57 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: marktwain
with a Prairie Farms milk crate

Oh, wow. Those are the worst. Highest caliber milk crate available.

11 posted on 03/24/2018 6:25:37 PM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: marktwain

Yeah, but what color was the victim? Black? Then it means nothing.


12 posted on 03/24/2018 6:55:41 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: super7man

Yep. I conceal carry one.


13 posted on 03/24/2018 7:01:50 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

16 quart/ 4 gallon capacity is more than anyone needs for hunting.


14 posted on 03/24/2018 7:08:47 PM PDT by pingman ("I ain't in no ways tired.." of WINNING!)
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To: pingman

LOL! Indeed!


15 posted on 03/24/2018 7:14:56 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

Yep, Zero Tolerance 350 in the right front pocket, Sig P229 in .40 on the left hip. I’m too old and ornery to take on milk crates.

On more formal occasions, I carry a Benchmade Axis Flipper and a P229 Equinox :o)


16 posted on 03/24/2018 7:43:30 PM PDT by glock rocks (... so much win!)
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To: glock rocks

Luckily I’ve never had to use the milk crate.


17 posted on 03/24/2018 7:54:38 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

Yup, and they’re kinda hard to conceal.


18 posted on 03/24/2018 9:39:52 PM PDT by glock rocks (... so much win!)
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To: piytar

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>> “He should have never been charged from the sound of it.” <<

That is the salient point.


19 posted on 03/24/2018 9:45:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: marktwain
People on probation still have the right to self defense.

It is important that black people know they can get a fair shake at trial.

This is one reason I think law that disarm people just because they've been to prison are wrong. All creatures have a God given right to self-defense.

20 posted on 03/25/2018 1:46:32 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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