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The "Open Question" On Vaccines and Autism
CBS News ^ | May 12, 2008 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 04/22/2018 7:17:20 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: the OlLine Rebel

It’s true & I’m a special needs teacher. Where I teach it sure seems like a big part of it is the home environment. Lack of fathers, drugs, completely unstable home life, no books at home, no appropriate conversation to build vocabulary.......you have a messed up child. Add to that the check you can apply for when your child has an IEP. I have one family who is getting a check for at least 4 kids. They don’t work & but a new house a few years ago. I do have to add that their children are genuinely simple/ mentally retarded & the student I have is nonverbal & has genuine autism.

One 1st grade teacher at my school has 13 children under Child Protective Services. 13!!!!!!!! You have kids coming into school knowing nothing & having no socialization/home training skills.

It’s a mess & society is paying dearly in dollars & having a population that does not participate in society, but takes.


41 posted on 04/22/2018 9:19:29 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Morpheus2009

Vaccines are never considered to be the single cause
My son is on the spectrum because of prenatal brain damage inflicted by his birth mothers substance abuse

But anyone whose normal child suffered a severe vaccine reaction and never fully recovered - some left to suffer with autism-like behaviors ever after- will never be convinced there was no connection and it was all to coincidence
There are simply too many of us
Yes I say us because my previous son who already struggled most if his life suffered another setback after a vaccine reaction in his adolescence and lost a shining part of his personality within days
Mothers know these things
Luckily after 5 years he is making another recovery though we had adjusted to losing him and gaining a different kid


42 posted on 04/22/2018 9:21:43 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: republicanbred
If I post hundreds of research articles from all over the world showing links between vaccines and autism will you take the time to read them? Just because they are not in your “approved” journals does not mean they do not exist. They are literally HUNDREDS of them. And it terrifies me that freepers are as brainwashed as those on the democratic underground when it comes to believing that their government (CDC, fda), etc., would share the research with them if it was out there. Have mercy.

Just because there are hundreds of articles in print, doesn't prove that they are not crap. Heck, half of the published articles in "respectable" scientific journals are crap. Another kind of crap is that housewives and shoe salesmen and taxicab drivers think they are qualified to come to iron clad opinions about epidemiological research based on the writings of snake oil peddlers and modern day hedge-wizards practicing "natural" medicine without a real license.

43 posted on 04/22/2018 9:37:22 AM PDT by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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To: silverleaf

To all

Any medicine will have some small number of people it will kill, lame or do nothing for not even cure. Even simple aspirin has people who have problems with it. My late father was one. There is no “no risk” medicine or “no risk” anything. I know that doesn’t make anyone who is or has loved a loved one in the “problem category” feel any better. The question is the benefit and the numbers that benefit worth the cost to the others. The whole medical statistics methodology world that gives the information to do the risk management is horribly broken, maybe it never was what it claimed to be capable of (I am more or less in that camp now!) Nick Taleb’s books on the challenge quantifying risk and risk management are very much worth reading.


44 posted on 04/22/2018 9:42:20 AM PDT by Reily
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To: logi_cal869

Those of us who were adults in the early 1950’s know better


45 posted on 04/22/2018 9:45:51 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: logi_cal869

Polio is viral——what on earth do insects have to do with it”

Again,where did you get the stats showing that polio was already on the wane before the Salk vaccine was introduced?

You made the claim-—you should provide the data.

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46 posted on 04/22/2018 9:52:41 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Yaelle

“It was. He’s right. Many of the worst childhood diseases were on the decline.”


Polio was NOT on the decline prior to Salk.

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47 posted on 04/22/2018 10:06:46 AM PDT by Mears
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To: old curmudgeon

Probably the last generation where everyone knew someone who had polio


48 posted on 04/22/2018 10:12:55 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: silverleaf

Yeah.

Two in my family....my brother and my daughter, who had zero contact with each other.


49 posted on 04/22/2018 10:21:35 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: taxcontrol

The vaccine industry is pure evil and run by pathological liars


50 posted on 04/22/2018 10:24:05 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Shortly after round 12 of shots, each for 2-5 different things, it was like a switch got flipped in our 3 year old son. He quit speaking altogether and his personality changed.

>>>Millions of autistic children will - in the not-too-distant future - outgrow their parents, or their parents will no longer be able to care for them. Their only option in many cases is institutionalization. Who, but a parent or family member, can and would devote the moment-by-moment attention it takes to raise an autistic child?<<<

The above is about my greatest concern in life. Once my wife and I are gone, the only person he’ll have is his sister.

I can’t believe some of the replies here. No such thing as autism? It’s the mom’s fault?

That and the belief that big-gov and $big-pharma$ have our children’s best interest in mind?


51 posted on 04/22/2018 10:49:36 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: republicanbred

Polio was already almost gone before vaccines came in and the cases spiked.

There a lot of people that can’t comprehend that maybe some vaccines aren’t great, and maybe some do a lot of harm.

I know my thoughts on it, but it is amazing how many are brainwashed. God made me, I’ll trust that.


52 posted on 04/22/2018 10:53:45 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Seruzawa

Psychiatry and psychology are both made up. Pill pushers and proffession perpetuators. (say that 10 times real quick). The point is, it’s a made up crap to support a billion dollar industry.


53 posted on 04/22/2018 10:56:40 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Truthoverpower

You’re right, but people will be hostile to you because they can’t fathom the alternative. The alternative is this has nothing to do with our health but is instead part of a process to ruin people, done by the same global elites hell bent on controlling us.

From the comments I’ve seen on this article, I’d say the globalists are doing a fine job of it.


54 posted on 04/22/2018 11:03:50 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Pollard
Shortly after round 12 of shots, each for 2-5 different things, it was like a switch got flipped in our 3 year old son. He quit speaking altogether and his personality changed.

I feel deeply for you FRiend. And of course, for your dear son.

The opinions are callous and ignorant. Many are as guilty of knee-jerk reactions as those on the left. Just different issues.

We've not tried to influence our daughters, but each has decided not to pursue the ridiculous number of shots per visit. Now, they have begun to not do the +70 shots. I know of many families like this.

It is no wonder, when crony capitalism substitutes for objective medical care. Once Big Pharma was not liable for the harm their "vaccines" cause, they had lots of incentive to continually increase the number and lobby to have them required.

In contrast, in Italy, where life expectancy is higher, they are increasing the number of required shots to 10, instead of our 74 and growing.

55 posted on 04/22/2018 11:04:03 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: Bulwyf

This is about as lenient as I am going to go, but for some people drugs like penicillin or aspirin are harmful. For a subset.


56 posted on 04/22/2018 11:10:21 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Pollard

Yeah, the people who deny autism is real are the worst. I wouldn’t deny it considering my neighbors have a boy in his 20s who goes on temper tantrums without a perfect schedule or people telling him “no”. It’s a very real condition affecting a lot of people and there should be concern about either lessening the severity or preventing it if possible.


57 posted on 04/22/2018 11:15:31 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Mears

Perception is not the same as statistics


58 posted on 04/22/2018 11:24:49 AM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: CodeToad

LOL! Agree. Right up there with kids drugged fro ADD, ADHD, AFLO, EIEIO, and so on.


59 posted on 04/22/2018 1:01:56 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: silverleaf

WOW! So sorry. God Bless You!!! And prayers up!!!


60 posted on 04/22/2018 1:12:10 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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