Skip to comments.In Rendering Guilty Verdict, Did The Cosby Jury Rely On Policy Or On The Facts And The Law?
Posted on 04/27/2018 5:39:55 AM PDT by Kaslin
Bill Cosby was found guilty on all 3 counts of aggravated indecent assault for drugging and sexually assaulting Andrea Constand in Philadelphia.
I have to wonder how much the prosecutors closing arguments had to do with the jurys decision. The government made policy arguments to the jury during their closing argument. The prosecutor argued that Cosby questioning the complaining witness intentions is the exact reason that women and victims of sexual assault dont report this crime. The government was shaming Cosby for confronting his accuser, for exercising a Constitutional right enumerated in the Bill of Rights. The effect of the argument is that the prosecutor signaled to the jury that the fait of future victims feeling confident in reporting crimes rests in the hands of this jury.
This was a policy argument. A way to implant into the mind of the jury the idea that making a societal change will start with a Cosby conviction. The government was referencing the #MeToo movement and the hoards of women (and men) coming forward on the internet to report their previously unreported allegations of sexual assault. Yet, it is a dangerous road, making an individual set of allegations of a trial into a representation of societys problems with this type of accusation. Surely an individual should not be the scapegoat for the ills of society as a whole.
The governments proposition that the defense lawyer did something wrong by showing that the victim lacked credibility is absurd, but yet that is what the prosecutor did in these words: the exact reason that women and victims of sexual assault dont report this crime. Should Cosby not be permitted to defend himself against this woman's accusations? Her words are enough to land him in prison for 10 years per accusation. Her story is from from an alleged act that took place in 2004, over a decade prior to her reporting this crime. Should Cosbys legal team not have questioned her motives, inconsistencies and the like? The law permits and encourages fact finding in a trial. Thats the point of the trial!
The importance of this being an enumerated trial right cannot be brushed aside. The Bill of Rights only enumerates some rights, and leaves the others unenumerated. The Sixth Amendment is enumerated. This means it is of utmost importance. According to the Supreme Court, the essential purpose of the confrontation clause of the Sixth Amendment is the opportunity to cross-examine a complaining witness. The opponent demands confrontation, not for the idle purpose of gazing upon the witness, or of being gazed upon by him, but for the purpose of cross-examination, which cannot be had except by the direct and personal putting of questions and obtaining immediate answers. Davis v. Alaska 415 U.S. 308 (1974).
Cosby was shamed by the government for asserting his Constitutional rights. Should the government shame individuals for exercising their right to trial, their right to cross examine witnesses, or their right to present a defense to a jury? Absolutely not. These rights are part of the foundational freedoms that our country is built on.
We have to be able to separate out policy arguments from individual responsibility. The legislature is entrusted with making policy. Juries are entrusted with deciding whether an individual committed a crime in a particular case. Juries cannot and should not decide an individuals fate based on policy arguments. Juries should not be deciding the fait of society in a criminal trial. The jury instructions read by the judge do not ask the jury to consider policy issues. Neither should the government.
But CNN points out that this conviction did just that, that this finding of guilt represents a test of how the cultural movement will translate into a courtroom arena, since this was "the first celebrity sexual assault trial since the #MeToo movement began last fall. Thats the problem. A criminal conviction should never be part of a movement, because thats how we get conviction by mob.
Cosby now faces the imposition of 10 years per count - that's 30 years in prison, in whole or in part, depending on his ordered sentence. He is an old man that faces the possibility of being imprisoned for the duration of his time here on earth. I can only hope the jury relied on the facts and the law, and not on policy, to come to their decision.
I predict the convictions will be thrown out on appeal, and the basis of the appeal will be the judge’s instruction to the jury that they could define “consent” however they wanted.
Im not sure how this works. Did she come back 2 more
Times after the first assault?
My take is: every member on that jury had him convicted before they sat down in the jury box. Juries aren’t exactly random.
“Cosby now faces the imposition of 10 years per count - that’s 30 years in prison, in whole or in part, depending on his ordered sentence. He is an old man that faces the possibility of being imprisoned for the duration of his time here on earth. I can only hope the jury relied on the facts and the law, and not on policy, to come to their decision.”
Cosby now faces the imposition of 10 years per count and an eternity in HELL.
He is an old man that faces the possibility of being imprisoned for the duration of his time here on earth
It’s okay to be a rapist if you’re old?
I can only hope the jury relied on the facts and the law
I’m sure that the judge gave the jury those exact instructions.
Cosby is as innocent as Bill Clinton.
So he gave her blue pills. He didn’t slip her a mickey or force her to take them.
That will show him and others about making comments about personal responsibility.
Cosbys chief accuser, Andrea Constand, sat stone-faced in the first row but
tilted her head back and breathed a sigh of relief after jurors were formally polled.
I predict that this will be appealed on a NUMBER of legal issues. Cos will be free on bail while the appeals drag out, probably until he dies (which I also predict will be within 10 years).
No, but they do come from a jury pool. Both sides of the table can accept or reject each juror.
What I find odd is that Cosby was (is) rich and famous.
He could with very little effort find women to have sex with. He had no need to use a drug or to trick women into sex. So why would he do it?
I don’t think it was about sex. I think it was about power. He needed to dominate these women.
Depends upon how the sentences are specified. 3 at 10 yrs
each served concurrently could have him out in five years or
so. I don’t know how the appeals process works for these
charges he’s convicted of.
Meanwhile Billy Jeff Clinton, walks around unscathed, despite actual media coverage by his accuser. Wheres the trial for her and justice...
What you say during that pooling and what you really think are not necessarily the same thing.
Agreed, but the process sours the outcome when liberals invoke their cult-of-personality faux selected outrage. (see Kanye West). Cosby likely is guilty, but by bastardizing, therefore tainting due process, he should be let off because he was never presumed innocent IMO!
I’m surprised to hear so many supporting this mans innocence? He drugged women to have sex with them.
he has a whole fan club here.
Not so much his innocence, but more like, of all the dirtbags in Hollywood, why is he the only one that has been convicted?
When is Weinstein’s trial?
the exact reason that women and victims of sexual assault dont report this crime.
Sounds like the makings of a mistrial, except for the judge - meaning watch out for an appeal.
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