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California Wants to Ban Books Written by Ex-Gays
PJ Media ^ | 04/27/2018 | Megan Fox

Posted on 04/27/2018 9:41:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The California Legislature has proposed banning the sale of books written by ex-gay people and Christians who seek to help others who want to restrain or control their sexuality. Bill AB 2943 would ban the sale of goods and services that encourage one to change his or her sexual orientation or gender expression. That's right, the left is banning books! (Don't hold your breath waiting for the American Library Association to kick up a fuss, though.) National Review reported the details:

First,  the bill by its own terms applies to very broad categories of services  and goods. Here’s the key enabling language:

1770. (a) The following unfair methods of competition and unfair or deceptive acts or practices undertaken by any person in a transaction intended to result or that results in the sale or lease of goods or services to any consumer are unlawful:

Second, a book (along with other written materials, like pamphlets or workbooks) fits within the very, very broad definition of a goods:

tangible chattels bought or leased for use primarily for personal, family, or household purposes, including certificates or coupons exchangeable for these goods, and including goods that, at the time of the sale or subsequently, are to be so affixed to real property as to become a part of real property, whether or not they are severable from the real property.

Basically, if you can buy it and move it (in other words, it’s not real estate), then it’s a good. Moreover, under the statute, “services” can include “services furnished in connection with the sale or repair of goods.” Booksellers provide “services.”

Something similar passed in Illinois, but the legislature limited it to banning minors from receiving therapy to change their sexual orientation (even if the minor wanted it). But even the Illinois Democrats weren't crazy enough to try and ban adults from buying the books or therapy they want. Not only will adults in California not be allowed to purchase the books of their choice (if this monstrosity passes the Senate), but priests will not be able to council LGBT people to be celibate even if they seek it out -- because there is no exemption for religious institutions. How far they will go to stop it (jail, fines, loss of tax-exempt status, towering piles of books on fire) is yet to be seen. The government in California has declared war on the freedom of religion and speech. California legislators aren't worried about it though since they just decided to label ideas they don't like "fraud" and ban them under consumer protection laws. Here's Al Muratsuchi lecturing us all on why banning religious philosophy and actual books isn't really an infringement of free speech. You just need to "evolve," you bigot.

If the basis for being able to ban a book is fraud, shouldn't that automatically put Kitty Kelley and every other "unauthorized biographer" completely out of business? It is a shocking attempt to silence the voices of those who want to tell their stories about overcoming what to them was a result of years of abuse and struggle. Ex-gays have a right to tell their stories, whether you believe them or not. It's interesting that the same people who believe Bruce can identify as Caitlyn want to make it illegal for Luis Javier Ramirez to identify as straight. Ramirez is taking part in a protest against this bill and others like it on May 5th in Washington, D.C.

A survivor of the Pulse gay nightclub shooting and a speaker at the event, Ramirez testifies about liberation from homosexuality through Jesus, who “didn’t just change my life, but exchanged my life for His.” Freedom March organizers want to know why Californians want to silence their choice to share their stories. Event founder Jeffrey McCall states, “Everyone in this country gets to speak their ideals and beliefs freely, so why can’t we tell our stories?”

“This is an extremely important and ground-breaking moment, as the LGBTQ community is clamping down to silence the testimonies of people who have come out of those lifestyles to follow Jesus Christ,” says Elizabeth Johnston, The Activist Mommy, who will speak at the event. “Their stories give us hope that freedom is possible in a world awash with gender confusion and sexual addiction!”

If the California Senate passes AB 2943, Californians will no longer be able to share personal stories of hope like the ones here.

Whether you think gay therapy is hooey or not, this is a freedom issue. What happened to the left's obsession with consenting adults? If adults consent to trying to change or improve something they feel is not making them happy, why can the state deny that? Reiki healing, feng shui, safe spaces, maggot debridement therapy, beer spas all might be fraudulent therapies, but congress isn't passing laws to ban adults from seeking them out if they feel they help them. Why is it the state's business what you do to feel better about life and how you live it? Spoiler: It isn't.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banbooks; censorship; exgays; gays; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; liberalfascism
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1 posted on 04/27/2018 9:41:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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This law will last about 2 seconds after the first “1st amendment” challenge...


2 posted on 04/27/2018 9:48:32 AM PDT by apillar
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To: SeekAndFind
Most homosexuals were sexually molested as children.

They seek to normalize their behavior to achieve easier access to MOLEST YOUR CHILDREN!

>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2009/06/05/a-major-study-of-child-abuse-and-homosexuality-revisited/<

On page 37, the other relevant result relates to men.

The 13th research question addressed, of homosexual men who have been molested, what percentage were molested before self-identification as homosexual men, and what percentage were molested after self-identification as homosexual? Of homosexual men who were molested, 68% were molested before self-identification as homosexual, and 32% were molested after self-identification as homosexual.

3 posted on 04/27/2018 9:49:35 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: SeekAndFind

From “tolerance” to “acceptance” to “forced indoctrination”


4 posted on 04/27/2018 9:52:21 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t banning these books just scratching the surface?

Wouldn’t they prefer a good ‘ol fashioned book burning instead?


5 posted on 04/27/2018 9:52:35 AM PDT by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: 2banana

“I’ve just flown in from California, where they’ve made homosexuality legal. I thought I’d get out before they make it compulsory.” - Bob Hope (1975)

Bob, if you only knew.


6 posted on 04/27/2018 9:53:40 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wait, I thought we conservatives were the book burners and banners....


7 posted on 04/27/2018 9:56:56 AM PDT by cld51860 (Volo pro veritas)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its about choice.

The same liberals who decry government interference on abortion are the same people who want to have the government prevent gays from changing their lifestyle if thy want.

Just don’t accuse them of hypocrisy.


8 posted on 04/27/2018 9:57:41 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ban the California legislature.


9 posted on 04/27/2018 9:58:59 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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YOU WILL
10 posted on 04/27/2018 10:00:38 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: apillar
In the 9th Circuit? We thought they would overturn the previous prohibitions re: minors. After all in CA there is a constitutional right to privacy, and certain minors can consent to treatment without parental knowledge or consent.
11 posted on 04/27/2018 10:01:24 AM PDT by PsyCon
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Why not on gay conversion?

If minors can have an abortion without parental consent, why can’t they stop being gays?

What’s the difference? Its about lifestyle.


12 posted on 04/27/2018 10:04:25 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

And they call us Nazis.


13 posted on 04/27/2018 10:08:53 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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To: SeekAndFind

Even the most outrageously stupid cannot believe this law will survive even the California Supreme Court.

Or any Federal Court.


14 posted on 04/27/2018 10:29:07 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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15 posted on 04/27/2018 10:35:57 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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Banning books? Hell, I want to ban the entire liberal state of Kalifornika!


16 posted on 04/27/2018 10:37:07 AM PDT by DaveA37
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Great. I live here but, in an area more akin to Oklahoma in terms of values.

It won’t last 5 minutes on a 1st amendment challenge...


17 posted on 04/27/2018 10:50:58 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: SeekAndFind

Patently unconstitutional.


18 posted on 04/27/2018 10:54:35 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: C210N

Isn’t banning these books just scratching the surface?

Wouldn’t they prefer a good ‘ol fashioned book burning instead?

That, and burning a few conservatives at the stake too, for good measure.


19 posted on 04/27/2018 11:14:40 AM PDT by Flick Lives (F*ck the FBI)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sieg Heil ... if the jackboot fits ...


20 posted on 04/27/2018 11:16:39 AM PDT by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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