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"WE'RE LOSING OUR HOME:' LGBTQ+ COMMUNITY MOURNS LOSS OF ICONIC BAR UNDERGROUND
WGRZ Buffalo, New York ^ | April 28, 2018 | Erica Brecher

Posted on 04/29/2018 2:21:16 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

BUFFALO, N.Y. – Down a flight of stairs and below Delaware Avenue is one of the gay community's most iconic bars.

Underground, through different ownerships and names, has been a welcoming place to Buffalo's LGBTQ community for nearly 40 years.

"There's a feeling here that is so reminiscent of ‘Cheers’ that we've all seen on television, and everyone knows each other's name,” said Edward Williams, a longtime patron.

But the decades of comradery will come to an end Sunday, April 29, when Underground closes its doors at 274 Delaware.

The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) would not renew the business' lease. HUD subsidizes the low-income senior apartments above the building.

"Most of the people in here know each other. We feel safe with one another. We are a family, and we're losing our home,” said another longtime patron, Omar Parra.

HUD spokesperson Charles McNally issued the following statement:

“While HUD recognizes the community sentiment surrounding the closure of The Undergound, the Department’s primary duty is to provide safe and decent housing for low-income seniors. Resident complaints detailed excessive noise and *police activity* that were directly impacting their quality of life. After careful consideration, HUD instructed the owner of Touraine Apartments to seek a commercial tenant more beneficial for the building’s residents.”

Channel 2 asked for paperwork of those complaints, and received just three, which detailed things like noise, loitering and smoke. The building has 104 tenants.

(Excerpt) Read more at wgrz.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; hud
I'm sorry for changing the headline.

If I posted the headline as is, few people would know what the article was really about.

Original Headline:

"We're losing our home:' LGBTQ+ community mourns loss of iconic bar Underground

Also the article is somewhat ambiguous.

The article states HUD would would "not renew the business' lease." It then goes on to say "HUD subsidizes the low-income senior apartments above the building."

Was the lease to the low-income senior apartments included or separate from the LGBTQ bar lease?

1 posted on 04/29/2018 2:21:16 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Pulled in 3, 2, 1...


2 posted on 04/29/2018 2:32:31 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: yesthatjallen
LGBTQ?

Homosexuals

Bisexuals

Transgenders

Miscellaneous Practices

Why do Lesbians get double billing. A woman on woman situation, is a homosexual situation. And Q? What the hell is that?

I suggest a new acronym, HoBi TraMPs...

3 posted on 04/29/2018 2:41:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: yesthatjallen

The article is written by a reporter who does not understand HUD subsidies.

If the owner of the building receives a section 8 subsidy any sub-leases would be subject to HUD regulation.

In that case HUD is not leasing the building and is not sub-leasing to the bar.

However, HUD can regulate what it subsidizes.

It sounds like the tenants complained to HUD who then contacted the building owner—and told the building owner to terminate the sub-lease.

HUD would not own the building or sub-lease any portion of it.


4 posted on 04/29/2018 2:44:45 PM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Leave it to HUD to transform it’s purpose from helping the poor with housing to paying for a gay bar!


5 posted on 04/29/2018 2:48:35 PM PDT by SaraJohnson ( Whites must sue for racism. It's pay day.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s like saying panini sandwich or cipollini onions.


6 posted on 04/29/2018 3:07:02 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: yesthatjallen

It’s been obvious for many years that HUD doesn’t like whole families.


7 posted on 04/29/2018 4:00:26 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: yesthatjallen

HUD is the housing version of school busing.


8 posted on 04/29/2018 4:18:20 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: yesthatjallen
Channel 2 asked for paperwork of those complaints, and received just three, which detailed things like noise, loitering and smoke. The building has 104 tenants.

That's funny, the media regularly trumpets complaints about everything from smoking (after they could sell ads) to bad language.

Statutes come falling down, businesses get shuttered.

All because of one complaint.

Sorry, HUD should never subsidize anything, much less a commercial business.

9 posted on 04/29/2018 5:03:54 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Mine is “The:She=He=It Movement”


10 posted on 04/29/2018 5:38:23 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin another gem posted in the wilderness)
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To: DoughtyOne
Q is questioning, which means that if you are over 18 and you don't know if you are gay, bi or straight, you are STUPID!! 😀
11 posted on 04/29/2018 5:51:39 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: yesthatjallen

“and everyone knows each other’s name”

What, do they have name tags on their anuses?


12 posted on 04/29/2018 6:20:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Wotta shame. Too bad.


13 posted on 04/29/2018 7:14:06 PM PDT by szweig (HYHEY!! (Have You Had Enough Yet))
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To: yesthatjallen

The character “Woody” at this club is not a bartender.


14 posted on 04/29/2018 7:29:34 PM PDT by Lockbar (What would Vlad The Impaler do?)
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To: szweig

Have to suck d**k somewhere else.


15 posted on 04/29/2018 7:50:45 PM PDT by wetgundog (Mainstream Media, Lying Liars Lying.)
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To: Trillian

Should have been pronounced Hobby Tramps.

Probably should have suggested that.

I’m getting into panini sandwiches, but some folks have latched on to the name and aren’t producing the same type of sandwich others are.

I like the doughy pocket ones.


16 posted on 04/29/2018 10:13:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: mosesdapoet

Again, I should have suggested the pronunciation for mine. It would be Hobby Tramps.

Yours is good too.


17 posted on 04/29/2018 10:15:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Deplorable American1776

Ok, I get it now. Thanks.

That would be covered under my Miscellaneous Practices category.

Hobby Tramps


18 posted on 04/29/2018 10:16:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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