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Apparently, Iran Deal Defenders Already Knew Iran Wasnt to Be Trusted (But went ahead anyway)
National Review ^ | 05/01/2018 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 05/01/2018 9:04:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Making the click-through worthwhile: Iran deal defenders insist they always knew Tehran was lying all along; some overheated arguments about masculinity and books for kids; how most of the people making the loudest arguments in public discourse didn’t bother to do the homework; and a really strange and implausible accusation against Mitch McConnell.

Wait, Why Did We Ever Trust the Iranians Again?

Fans of the Iran deal scoff at Israeli prime minister Bibi Netanyahu’s presentation about the long and sordid history of Iran’s secret nuclear program: “There was nothing we didn’t already know.” “Everything he said was already known.” “There is nothing new in Bibi’s presentation.”

I don’t quite get how “hey, everybody always knew the Iranian regime lies all the time” is such a sterling defense of the Iran deal. I mean, is that we’re so confident in the limited inspections that we don’t think Iran would cheat by doing things at military sites? You can’t argue, “Oh, we never trusted their word” and “That’s why we have to keep trusting them” in the same breath.

Our new secretary of State:

“I know there are people talking about these documents not being authentic,” Pompeo added. “I can confirm for you that these documents are real; they’re authentic.”

Pompeo said that the files “spell out the scope and scale of the program that they undertook there, and I think makes – I think makes very clear that, at the very least, the Iranians have continued to lie to their own people. So while you say everyone knew, the Iranians have consistently taken the position that they’ve never had a program like this. This will – this will belie any notion that there wasn’t a program like this.”

He added that the administration would “leave that to lawyers,” when asked if there was there anything in there that suggests there’s an actual violation of the 2016 agreement.”

I’m reminded of a past warning about Iran’s treachery and ambitions by an American leader known for launching military strikes in Middle Eastern countries:

This is not the first time that Iran has concealed information about its nuclear program. Iran has a right to peaceful nuclear power that meets the energy needs of its people. But the size and configuration of this facility is inconsistent with a peaceful program. Iran is breaking rules that all nations must follow — endangering the global non-proliferation regime, denying its own people access to the opportunity they deserve, and threatening the stability and security of the region and the world.

That was President Barack Obama on September 25, 2009.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bobcorker; hassannasrallah; hezbollah; iran; irandeal; iraniannukes; israel; jerusalem; lebanon; letshavejerusalem; nukes; tedcruz; waronterror
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1 posted on 05/01/2018 9:04:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Everyone knew Iran was developing Nukes in 2003. This is really old news.


2 posted on 05/01/2018 9:07:47 AM PDT by raiderboy (" we’ll close down the country because we need border" DJT NOW !!)
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To: raiderboy

The purpose to the deal seems to have been to get Iran to have communication with other countries. As far as Israel complaining about Iran’s nukes, well, Israel has nukes.


3 posted on 05/01/2018 9:11:33 AM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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To: grania

Israel doesn’t follow an ideology that demands the zealous extermination of infidels.


4 posted on 05/01/2018 9:18:46 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why did we trust the Iranians?

Because big biz wanted sanctions lifted.


5 posted on 05/01/2018 9:21:11 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Iran is an Islamic “Republic”. A key precept of Islam is taquyya, lying to the Infidel for the protection or advancement of Islam. Of course they’re gonna lie!


6 posted on 05/01/2018 9:23:20 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The purpose was to have a foreign policy success, even if it was known to be an outright lie, they were sure it would be peddled by the Obama-loving media as an unqualified success.


7 posted on 05/01/2018 9:24:27 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: MrEdd
Israel doesn’t follow an ideology that demands the zealous extermination of infidels.

Nor of preemptive extermination of those who would destroy her, regrettably.

8 posted on 05/01/2018 9:25:22 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: mewzilla
Why did we trust the Iranians?

Because big biz wanted sanctions lifted.


9 posted on 05/01/2018 9:26:07 AM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: grania

I am not apposed to a deal with Iran but in a deal, no one dictates to the other side. Obama just simply paid a bribe to Iran so he could get out of office before they made the Nuke they will inevitably have because Israel has nuke we actually gave them. Pretty simple. Once they have nukes , if they threaten this country ( THE USA) or our troops with those nukes— and do so clearly and specifically like Kim Jong Un actually did three times-— it is time to turn that sand into glass. But let’s don’t just pay bribes under extortion.


10 posted on 05/01/2018 9:26:07 AM PDT by raiderboy (" we’ll close down the country because we need border" DJT NOW !!)
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11 posted on 05/01/2018 9:29:04 AM PDT by caww
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To: SeekAndFind

If you accept the fact that the “deal” was done in collaboration with Iran, then it all makes perfect sense. Obama views Iran as his ally, not his enemy. All makes sense now. This was the intended result!


12 posted on 05/01/2018 9:32:58 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Phillyred

Obongo’s chief was/is Iranian what would you expect?


13 posted on 05/01/2018 9:38:53 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: SeekAndFind

In the book muzzies read it says it is permitted to lie to infidels.


14 posted on 05/01/2018 9:42:22 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: gibsonguy

In a just world, the former president and a good number of his staff and many dem and GOPe collaborators would be swinging on the capitol mall.


15 posted on 05/01/2018 9:55:59 AM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sure. They probably found the opportunity to cause the destruction of the US irresistible.


16 posted on 05/01/2018 9:56:57 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Everybody new that Iran was cheating and that this deal was made just so the US could ignore Iran’s nuke program.

Nothing new to see here folks, move on..

Now back to more relevant topics, what is new in the Mueller/Trump investigation?

How about those questions supposedly leaked that Mueller plans on putting Trump under oath in front of the Grand jury to answer.

Now that’s REAL NEWS


17 posted on 05/01/2018 10:04:05 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Florida school safety bill=gun grabbing)
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“...knew...”


18 posted on 05/01/2018 10:09:23 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Florida school safety bill=gun grabbing)
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Kerry and bammy gave Iran everything they wanted and more to insure bammys fake legacy.....they couldn’t care less about the nuclear bomb and missile program...


19 posted on 05/01/2018 10:12:56 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: grania

Seriously, dude...have you suffered a head wound?


20 posted on 05/01/2018 10:17:40 AM PDT by gogeo
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