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The Trump Land Mine
National Review ^ | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 05/08/2018 9:42:57 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom

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To: zerosix

Nonsense.


21 posted on 05/08/2018 10:59:10 AM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward 5th Avenue to be born?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Insiders were trying to flip Electoral College voters to go with Hillary.


22 posted on 05/08/2018 10:59:21 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

If this $hit$how proves anything, it’s that the Left is not to be trusted with the levers of power.


23 posted on 05/08/2018 10:59:53 AM PDT by gogeo
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I don’t read NR since the election of 2016. However, when someone posts VDH opeds, I read them.


24 posted on 05/08/2018 11:00:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Democrats are having trouble with their MAMA campaign, (Make America Mexico Again), versus MAGA!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Victor Davis was feeling scrappy when he wrote this...LoL


25 posted on 05/08/2018 11:01:44 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: z3n
It would have no permanent effect. IT's too easy to move back and forth, in and out of government.
26 posted on 05/08/2018 11:02:49 AM PDT by gogeo
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To: z3n
But it makes me curious to ask freepers about immunity in reverse.

Since you bring up immunity, consider this line from Hanson's article:

It sought to indict, impeach, and remove a sitting president, as the ancien régime rushed to break federal law with assumed ethical exemption — tapping, surveilling, lying, and leaking with impunity, assured that supposedly morally superior ends justified any means necessary to achieve them.

"Assumed ethical exemption" for "morally superior ends."

That describes everything about liberalism, from how the MSM twists the news without consequence to how judges overreach on rulings that change law.

-PJ

27 posted on 05/08/2018 11:04:27 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Rats... I finished too soon.

Liberals have granted themselves a blanket immunity for their actions. It's what today's Limbaugh caller coined as "liberal privilege."

-PJ

28 posted on 05/08/2018 11:06:16 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

VDH would appreciate your classical references..as do I. Great read; the article and your comments.


29 posted on 05/08/2018 11:06:35 AM PDT by SueRae (An administration like no other.)
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To: FredZarguna
Andrew McCarthy is still writing great pieces.

Every time I see the name I think of his full throated defense of his 'lil buddy, Jim Comey.

30 posted on 05/08/2018 11:08:21 AM PDT by gogeo
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
VDH links the decline of certain entertainment industries - the NFL, ESPN, the Academy Awards - with the debacle that was the White House Correspondents' Dinner in pointing out that the establishment that is paying for its own excesses is more than just the political one. That is likely to continue. And the story of media and high-tech celebrities is simply proof that Acton was correct: power did tend to corrupt, and absolute power corrupted absolutely.

It is the pervasiveness of that corruption that is astonishing. The Trump election managed to coalesce many of the most corrupt institutions in the country in opposition, and it's costing them their veil of secrecy in return. For that alone we owe him a debt of gratitude. It will not do to expect him to correct this lamentable state of affairs on his own - we, the people, have to play our part.

32 posted on 05/08/2018 11:09:57 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Political Junkie Too

So the question is, how do you break these people out of their bubble?

We talk about members of the MSM being insulated in a liberal bubble and not realizing how far their moral relativism has been skewed and perverted by isolated feedback, much like how members of a cult would not realize how much a disconnect from cultural norms and morals they have developed, and the same is probably even more true for those deep within the bureaucracies.

But how do you force them to get re-immersed into exposure to actual culture and population where they will be shocked back into reality and everyday common sense morals?
I don’t think you can.

Frankly, it seems to me that they need to start seeing the members of their peer ranks as well as those at the top held responsible for allowing a perverted sense of morality to distort their decisions, and it will wake them up to seeking out a more realistic perspective.

But the problem I brought up about offering a kindof immunity is the deadlock that seems to have no end. The real strategists and decision makers in the deep state appear to have entrenched themselves in support of each other and are unwilling to relent, even if their hopes and goals of sinking Trump are long since diminishing. It’s more about promoting the power stalemate to protect themselves, and if we ever want to get a functioning government back again, perhaps we need to offer concessions and protections as a part of an exit strategy for them.


33 posted on 05/08/2018 11:16:55 AM PDT by z3n
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To: LongWayHome
Thanks. I totally forgot about their reprehensible efforts to flip the elector votes after the election:

Don’t be confused: An electoral college rebellion is almost certainly not going to happen, December 22, 2016.

Selective amnesia blotting out bad memories.

34 posted on 05/08/2018 11:22:58 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: z3n

The problem will only be corrected when the marxist take-over of education is defeated and kids again are taught in K-12 of the goodness that is America. Then it will take a generation or maybe two to right the ship.

Conservatives need a counter-revolutionary “Long March Through the Institutions” to recapture them.

But I don’t recommend holding your breath. The millennial want all boomers dead (my own daughter told me this!).


35 posted on 05/08/2018 11:29:04 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: z3n
A couple of quick thoughts:

1. I was listening to the Breitbart Radio podcasts with Peter Schweitzer and his expose on the McConnell-Chao-China corruption. They were wondering why the story has gotten ZERO traction in the MSM given Schweitzer's success with Clinton Cash.

They mentioned that Politico picked it up this morning and ran a story on Chao's abuse of office to help her father appear power-connected to increase his influence in Chinese business circles. They ran Chinese-language interviews of Chao and her father using Department of Transportation symbols. They talked about the explosion of growth in the elder Chao's shipping company since his daughter joined the Trump Cabinet.

They compared this to the candidate Blankenship in West Virginia that Trump tweeted about yesterday. They remarked that Blankenship jumped to the lead because he ran ads bashing McConnell based on the Schweitzer reporting, and that has resonated with the conservative base that hates McConnell. They said that more candidates should run on opposing McConnell.

Their hope is that if more news outlets turn on McConnell and Chao for putting China's interests (and their personal fortunes) ahead of America's interests, that this could be a first step to reining in the excesses of our corrupted leaders.

2. The liberal MSM is insulated from the consequences of their corruption of the profession of journalism because they are being propped up by billionaires like Soros. Only a few rint newsrooms have seen wholesale layoffs and some secondary broadcast outlets have had staff reductions.

If true market forces were allowed to operate on news organizations, they would be forced to change their business models. In reaction to the story of Don Lemon declaring that CNN will no longer cover Trump rallies live, putting ideology over ratings and market share, Dan Gainor of the Media Research Center remarked that at some point the stockholders of the media corporations will have to demand its management perform their fiduciary responsibilities to make a profit or resign.

I doubt this will ever happen, but it's also interesting to see how long deep liberal pockets will be willing to keep the media afloat despite crashing ratings. How long will the MSM be able to keep the Lemons of the business employed? Knocking out a few talking heads might cause some to reexamine their business models.

Naaaahh…

-PJ

36 posted on 05/08/2018 11:42:13 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

but it’s also interesting to see how long deep liberal pockets will be willing to keep the media afloat despite crashing ratings
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I would imagine that the deeper their indebtedness gets with these patrons, the more they will be called to do their bidding. At some point, a critical mass will hit where the ROI will fall too low to justify the investment due to influence being destroyed by lack of credibility and lower exposure/market shares.


37 posted on 05/08/2018 11:49:20 AM PDT by z3n
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Further...I recognize all of the dirty tricks on the list except “attempting to disrupt the Electoral College.” What was that?

I think they want to “disband” the Electoral College, not
“disrupt.” I’ll give VDH the doubt benefit by assuming the computer “corrected” the spelling, because that’s about all I’ve been seeing. (source: wild-eyed, stark-raving, liberal loon relative.)


38 posted on 05/08/2018 12:12:06 PM PDT by Theophilous Meatyard III
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Hillary lost in the Electoral College.....so they want it gone.


39 posted on 05/08/2018 1:13:04 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Theophilous Meatyard III
All I recalled was their dream of killing the EC, but then LonWayHome reminded me in Post #34 that they were beavering away at electors to get them to be "faithless" and switch their votes. I totally forgot about that miserable episode.
40 posted on 05/08/2018 1:13:32 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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