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EMP Commission warns ‘blackout’ of electricity, food, water to last ‘year or longer,’ (TR)
Washington Examiner ^ | May 9, 2018 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 05/14/2018 8:37:04 AM PDT by Perseverando

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To: Perseverando
"...The report warned that the type of conditions spelled out by Pry could last a long time due to the difficulties fixing the electric grid, which many have testified would be fairly cheap to harden against an attack..."

I thought that 0's "$Trillion Dollar Infrastructure Scam" was getting into this. What happened?

If it is "fairly cheap" to get the grid hardened, somebody better get their azz in gear and get it done.

41 posted on 05/14/2018 9:44:35 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: BenLurkin

Notice that in any of these ‘survival scenarios’, that women will still have ‘makeup’ and everyone has access to freshly cleaned clothing.


42 posted on 05/14/2018 9:47:51 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Perseverando
The so-called EMP Commission report said that the threat is real, jeopardizes “modern civilization,” and would set back living conditions to those last seen in the 1800s.

The 1800's isn't modern civilization?

Were they living in caves or something?

43 posted on 05/14/2018 9:51:19 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Mr. K

‘If only someone would have had $4 Trillion to spend on “shovel ready” projects to fix all of this stuff...

WHERE THE **** DID THEY SPEND $4 TRILLION?????’
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you said it, Brother!!


44 posted on 05/14/2018 9:54:50 AM PDT by bitt (t)
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To: GRRRRR
The “One Minute After” series of books is well written and pretty factual about what will happen...

While there's some dispute about the actual severity of the damage done by the EMP, what he foresees as the breakdown of society, people going feral, and the die off's because of meds not being available, is chilling.

45 posted on 05/14/2018 9:56:13 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Hawthorn

EMP stands for Every Myth Possible.


46 posted on 05/14/2018 9:59:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz (What America needs is more Hogg control.)
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To: GRRRRR; CottonBall
The “One Minute After” series of books is well written and pretty factual about what will happen...

The one advantage I see is that so many city folks are so ill equipped to survive in the outdoors, that many will succumb to the elements, especially if it happens at a colder time of year.

He builds a good case for having a nice wood stove in in the house and not being so dependent on electric gadgets.

Homesteading skills will be invaluable.

We went to my son's in NH for Thanksgiving a few years ago, when that nor'easter hit. He lost power two hours before we got there on Tues. He lived ion a someone remote back road and it was Sat afternoon after we left to come home that he got his power back.

FORTUNATELY, he had a coal stove and a good supply of coal.

We made due with melting snow water for bathing and bottled water for drinking (his well was out) and cooked on the top of the stove ala Little House on the Prairie.

But we were comfortable and warm and what an eye opening experience that was.

As long as you can stay warm, you're good. I cannot fathom what it would have been like is he had no heat.

The biggest laugh we got out of the whole thing was the number of generators that were hooked up and running within a matter of hours. EVERYONE up there is prepared for power outages from nor'easters/ice storms.

47 posted on 05/14/2018 10:04:19 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

I always think of the “Trigger Effect” episode of “Connections” and how inevitably we are going to get stuck in the ‘technology trap’.


48 posted on 05/14/2018 10:05:31 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kartographer

The Northeast Blackout from a few years ago comes to mind.

And that wasn’t even sabotage.


49 posted on 05/14/2018 10:05:54 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Perseverando

This is just a rehash of a very old report, long ago dismissed as nothing but a bunch of people in search of grant money.


50 posted on 05/14/2018 10:07:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republicans took their slaves away.)
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To: laplata

And they are in a warm climate and don’t have to worry about freezing to death.


51 posted on 05/14/2018 10:07:52 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: JonPreston

Then don’t waste the bandwidth announcing you are posting it.


52 posted on 05/14/2018 10:08:38 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: plain talk

Absolutely. I can pay a few more dollars or so a month for hardening of my electric supply.


53 posted on 05/14/2018 10:19:13 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: plain talk
OK. Then the power companies should take the necessary preventive measures. They sure won't make any money in an EMP blackout.

I don't think we make any of the big transformers here that would be required. It would be a massive project just to acquire the transformers, let alone get them installed. Maybe we need to have a manhattan project for the transformers?

54 posted on 05/14/2018 10:36:14 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: palmer

There’s no valid comparison to the mainland US grid.

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Maybe not but the dire effects would be 300 times worse.


55 posted on 05/14/2018 10:56:01 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: metmom

In the 1800s there was no electricity or A/C and no running water. So, I would not consider the 1800s to be modern.

Our society is woefully soft and would not fare well without modern utilities. FReepers might do a better job of handling it than many others. One doesn’t have to necessarily be a hard core prepper to have emergency supplies on hand to at least survive a few months without walmart and grocery stores.


56 posted on 05/14/2018 11:02:35 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: metmom

Thanks for the nice note.

Water.

1 gallon per day per person.
We have 5 people, 11 alpacas, three dogs and two cats.
That’s 21 animals that need water.
The alpacas alone use over 20 gallons a day.
They aren’t really good to eat, but we can spin and knit their fleece.
With no electricity our well is as good as empty.
Our nearest neighbor has a portable genny we can hook up for water.

Those snowflake city folk who live hirise apartments in Denver will be dead of thirst in a week.


57 posted on 05/14/2018 11:21:52 AM PDT by GRRRRR (Make America Greater Than Ever Before!)
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To: itsahoot
manhattan project for the transformers

The rise time of the E3 (nuclear or solar source) pulse is incredibly slow, like seconds. A guy with a hand switch could cut the connection. Needless to say any type of mechanical relay would work. A semiconductor switch would be fine. The only project needed is surge protection and we know how to do that.

58 posted on 05/14/2018 11:32:05 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: metmom

I actually really enjoyed the storms we had at our cabin in the Sierras. It was a short little learning exercise to make sure we were prepared. It was a remote little community, and one year we got 30 feet of snow. You never knew when the storm would topple a tree that would take out your power. Being so remote and depending on snow removal, the power companies couldn’t get up there in a timely manner – ever.

We eventually learned exactly what to have, and I actually enjoyed having next several days in a row of living, as you said like Little House on the Prairie. There was one time the power was out for two weeks and that was a bit much.

When we moved here, we got a whole house generator With the house.. And a 500 gallon propane tank to feed it. However, that would only last for a short time. So two wood stoves inside that can be cooked on and 5 acres of wood, plus the entire Cherokee national Forest at the end of the holler, makes me feel a bit more prepared. Oh, and my pizza oven outside :-) that probably seems extravagant to the neighbors, but that’s in lieu of a real wood cookstove, which is what I really wanted.

It sounds like your son is prepared, no matter what will happen! I would say he has good genes :-)


59 posted on 05/14/2018 11:38:23 AM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you , Julian!)
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To: laplata
Maybe not but the dire effects would be 300 times worse.

And those effects would last for hours in most cases. The transformers are fairly easy to protect and mostly protected. The most compreheansive study showed that physical protection was lacking. A team of snipers could disable a portion of the grid by shooting out the largest transformers.

60 posted on 05/14/2018 11:39:58 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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