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John Kerry: Reporting for Duty… From Vietnam to Iran
The American Spectator ^ | May 15, 2018 | Paul Kengor

Posted on 05/15/2018 8:39:34 AM PDT by GreyFriar

He hasn’t changed a lick in 47 years.

I’ve been asked a number of times about John Kerry’s unauthorized actions with Iran compared to Ted Kennedy’s unauthorized actions with the Kremlin. Kerry, this spring 2018, sought to undermine President Trump’s policies, whereas Kennedy, spring 1983, sought to undermine President Reagan’s policies.

Many people — including the president of the United States — want to know if Kerry’s actions constitute a violation of the Logan Act. It’s a question I’m frequently asked about Kennedy. The short answer, in both cases, is that I’m not the source to provide the answer. Congress is. The Democratic Congress in the 1980s didn’t hesitate to launch criminal proceedings against President Ronald Reagan and his staff (many of them fine men of great integrity) in a militant pursuit for impeachment over “Iran-Contra.” Liberal Democrats did so while turning a blind eye as their leader — House Speaker Jim Wright — buddied up to Sandinista dictator Daniel Ortega in his own negotiations.

And Wright wasn’t secretary of state, just as John Kerry wasn’t secretary of state when he conferred with Iranian officials in secret meetings in New York. In what the Boston Globe described as a “rare move” of “unusual shadow diplomacy,” Kerry met with the Iranian foreign minister (among other high-level foreign officials) “to discuss ways of preserving the pact limiting Iran’s nuclear weapons program. It was the second time in about two months that the two had met to strategize over salvaging a deal they spent years negotiating during the Obama administration, according to a person briefed on the meetings.”

That’s the very deal that President Trump was working to cancel just as Kerry was working to save it.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; kerry; loganact; soskerry; vietnam
John Kerry continues to wage war against the USA.
1 posted on 05/15/2018 8:39:35 AM PDT by GreyFriar
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To: zot; Interesting Times; kristinn; Kaslin; 2ndDivisionVet

Ping


2 posted on 05/15/2018 8:40:33 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Forget Logan, which has never used. It’s treason. We cannot let this one go by.


3 posted on 05/15/2018 8:42:28 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: jazminerose

Should have been done in ‘71.


4 posted on 05/15/2018 8:45:13 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: GreyFriar

John Kerry evolved from a young leftist to an old leftist.


5 posted on 05/15/2018 9:05:45 AM PDT by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: GreyFriar

6 posted on 05/15/2018 9:05:54 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals Voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall !")
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To: GreyFriar

Wasn’t Kerry on a PT Boat on the Tigris River on the Christmas of 1996? Or was that Al Gore?

I’ll admit, it’s hard to keep these two people’s sterling military records straight.


7 posted on 05/15/2018 9:07:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: luvbach1
Good one.

John Kerry evolved from a young leftist to an old leftist.

Yes, and he also evolved from a young lying treasonous bastard to an old lying treasonous bastard.

8 posted on 05/15/2018 9:09:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: The Shrew

J. Kerry ping.


9 posted on 05/15/2018 9:19:15 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: GreyFriar

Did I mention that Effin was in Viet Nam?


10 posted on 05/15/2018 10:21:33 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: GreyFriar

This is a good article. Thanks for posting it.


11 posted on 05/15/2018 10:55:58 AM PDT by zot
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To: GreyFriar
Many people — including the president of the United States — want to know if Kerry’s actions constitute a violation of the Logan Act. It’s a question I’m frequently asked about Kennedy. The short answer, in both cases, is that I’m not the source to provide the answer. Congress is. The Democratic Congress in the 1980s didn’t hesitate to launch criminal proceedings against President Ronald Reagan and his staff (many of them fine men of great integrity) in a militant pursuit for impeachment over “Iran-Contra.”

Congress doesn't get to decide whether someone has broken the law. That's what courts are for.

That said, if Kerry met with Iran's foreign minister in order to "discuss ways to salvage" the Obama-Iran deal, then I would say that is a very clear violation of the Logan Act. He "commence[d]" and "carrie[d] on . . . intercourse" with an "officer" of a "foreign government" with the clear "intent to influence the measures or conduct of [a] foreign government . . ., in relation to [a] dispute[] or controvers[y] with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States." He went at least as far in this regard as George Logan did with the French.
12 posted on 05/15/2018 11:54:35 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: jazminerose

How Heinz and Kerry ever got lined up defies the imagination. She sure must have been hard up to advance her social standing. Amazing.....


13 posted on 05/15/2018 12:07:12 PM PDT by saintgermaine (saintgermaine the time traveller)
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To: jazminerose

No, it is not. Treason has a very definition that is strictly limited by the Constitution. We are not at war with Iran, as so Iran is not our “enemy” under Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution.

If this was treason, then the Adams Administration almost certainly would have had George Logan prosecuted for treason. And, unlike Iran today, we were in a shooting war with France at the time. Instead, the Federalists in the 5th Congress, who I suspect had a pretty good idea of what the Constitution meant, felt the need to pass a law to make it illegal, hence the Logan Act.


14 posted on 05/15/2018 12:17:24 PM PDT by The Pack Knight
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