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You Lose, Democrats: Mueller Told Trump Legal Team The President Cannot Be Indicted
Townhall.com ^ | May 16, 2018 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 05/16/2018 6:33:41 PM PDT by Kaslin

Ever since Donald J. Trump won a stunning victory against Hillary Clinton and the Democrats, the Left was convinced there was something at play to cause this event. How could the politically tone deaf Hillary lose? How could a woman with no charisma, economic agenda, or political skill lose? How could a woman who wrote off half the country as deplorable racists lose? You know the answer to this, but for liberals it had to be the Russians. The mocking of the GOP over Russia being our biggest geopolitical rival was relegated to the trashcan. Now, it was the neo-red scare, a Russophobia that was both unhinged and unwarranted. Democrats now considered any contact with a Russian an act of treason. If you had Stoli vodka, it was treason. It was totally insane, but also insanely entertaining. 

Did the Russians try and interfere in our elections? Probably—but nowhere near the level of sophistication that the Left thinks caused Clinton to lose. There was no altering of vote tallies. It was mostly shoddy memes run by Facebook, ad campaigns that devoted little money given the length of the campaign and how much money that was spent during this period. 

Still, there were allegations that the Trump campaign colluded with the Kremlin to tilt the election. In July of 2016, the FBI began its counterintelligence investigation into the matter. This probe cited the Trump dossier, a piece of partisan campaign literature compiled by former MI6 spook Christopher Steele, which was funded by the Clinton campaign and the Democrats. The Clinton camp contracted Fusion GPS, who then hired Steele to dig up dirt on Trump.

The Left was bracing for collusion to be confirmed. They wanted all the nastiness to come out in order to stop Trump. The Resistance waited in eager anticipation of something devastating, something impeachable to drop. Nothing ever did. It was an endless string of nothing burgers. Now, we’re being told that Special Counsel Robert Meuller, who took over the investigation in May, told the president’s legal team that Trump cannot be indicted; citing a DOJ memo that stated it would be an unconstitutional act, preventing the executive from efficiently carrying out its duties  (via Fox News):

President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, told Fox News on Wednesday that special counsel Robert Mueller has told the president's legal team he will follow Justice Department guidance and not seek an indictment against Trump.

Giuliani, himself a former federal prosecutor and mayor of New York City, also told Fox News that Mueller's investigators have not responded to five information requests from the president's team. That has forced Trump's legal team to push off making a decision about whether the president will sit for an interview with the special counsel -- a decision they had hoped to reach by Thursday.

The precedent that federal prosecutors cannot indict a sitting president is laid out in a 1999 Justice Department memo. Giuliani told Fox News that Mueller has no choice but to follow its guidance.

"This case is essentially over," Giuliani said. "They're just in denial."

One way to break the news to the Resistance that 2 years of leaks and reporting to the contrary, they've got nothing. https://t.co/Y3m7otVYyi— Mollie (@MZHemingway) May 16, 2018

NEW: Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded that they cannot indict a sitting president, according to the President's lawyer. @DanaBashCNN scoops https://t.co/eO63TfGY5p— Yashar Ali ?? (@yashar) May 16, 2018

Rudy Giuliani tells @FoxNews that Robert Mueller told @realDonaldTrump legal team two weeks ago that he will abide by DOJ guidelines that a President cannot be indicted. Giuliani said Mueller has no choice but to honor a 1999 Clinton-era memo— John Roberts (@johnrobertsFox) May 16, 2018

In early April, Mueller reportedly told the president that while he is under investigation, he’s not the target of a criminal probe. Later in the month, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein also told the president he had nothing to worry about concerning the Russia probe, or the investigation into his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, who is under the microscope for possible bank fraud and FEC violations concerning payment he made to porn star Stormy Daniels during the 2016 presidential election over her alleged affair with Trump back in 2006.

Now, over at NBC News, they said an exception can be given:

During the final months of the administration of former President Bill Clinton in 2000, the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel said in a memo that "the indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting president would be unconstitutional."

Neal Katyal, acting solicitor general in the administration of former President Barack Obama — the administration's top courtroom lawyer — wrote the current special counsel regulations as a young lawyer in Clinton's Justice Department in 1999. They specify that a special counsel "shall comply" with the policies of the Justice Department, for whom Mueller works.

Katyal said on MSNBC's "The Beat With Ari Melber" in February that means that Mueller is bound by the 2000 Justice Department memo but that he "can seek exceptions."

"This old opinion from 20 years ago does preclude, in general, the Justice Department from indicting a sitting president for constitutional reasons," Katyal said. "But an exception can be given."

I doubt that such an exception will be executed in this affair. So, overall—this could be the ballgame. Concerning Congress, they can impeach. And the Democrats are sure positioning themselves to do just that if they retake the House. The base wants it. The progressive wing of the party wants it. The low energy exhibited from leadership on this front is for political purposes. Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) was forced to resign over sexual misconduct claims last year. He was a ranking Democrat on the House judiciary Committee. Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), a reported constitutional scholar, has taken his placein the chance that there’s a showdown between Congress and the White House. They’re still getting ready for that fight. How can we avid it? It’s only if the GOP votes and wins the 2018 midterms.  

So, is this game over? Yeah, it looks like it could be. You lose again, Democrats. 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; collusion; demonrats; doj; giuliani; jamescomey; lisapage; peterstrzok; presidenttrump; robertmueler; robertmueller; rudy; rudygiuliani; russia; russiainvestigation; trumprussia; trumpwhitehouse
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1 posted on 05/16/2018 6:33:41 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

You don’t need an indictment for impeachment. All you need is the votes.


2 posted on 05/16/2018 6:37:09 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: Kaslin

It’s always been about impeachment or resignation...never about indictment.


3 posted on 05/16/2018 6:37:26 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: Kaslin

“Unindicted co-conspirator” — Would be the term used and impeachment would be the call from Mad Maxine, et al.


4 posted on 05/16/2018 6:37:33 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (California: drive illegally, you lose your license, here illegally, they give you one.)
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To: Kaslin

This makes my day!!!


5 posted on 05/16/2018 6:38:27 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Kaslin

He’s always known this. But he WILL indict people as close to him as he can, including family members if possible. Then he will dramatically release findings “discovering” Trump’s “crimes” and magnanimously say he leaves it to Congress to use their impeachment power.


6 posted on 05/16/2018 6:39:57 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Kaslin

No but he can sure as h e double hockey stick set him for impeachment.


7 posted on 05/16/2018 6:41:35 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Kaslin

They can and should indict Clinton, however, for abusing her power in government to frame a rival political candidate. But they won’t of course. She’s above the law now.


8 posted on 05/16/2018 6:42:15 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Kaslin

He didn’t say Trump did nothing wrong. He said he cannot indict Trump. The SOB is playing with fire.

Mueller is a traitor to America.


9 posted on 05/16/2018 6:43:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Kaslin

Indictment was never the goal. Impeachment was, is, and always will be the goal.


10 posted on 05/16/2018 6:44:30 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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To: Kaslin

Only the left did not know this.


11 posted on 05/16/2018 6:45:35 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: Kaslin

This whole “investigation” has been a farce!


12 posted on 05/16/2018 6:48:38 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: Kaslin

The conspiracy to destroy Trump’s presidency is exposed. The conspirators are identified. American will prevail. The US Constitution will remain intact. It’s called CROSSFIRE - HURRICANE. Start planning for your participation in the people’s march against the sins of the FBI, CIA, and DOJ in Washington as soon as the CROSSFIRE report hits the street.


13 posted on 05/16/2018 6:50:35 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Mueller leads a conspiracy to frame the President. Stand by Trump!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

They thought the voters would turn against Trump and demand he resign ,they never imagined it would go this far ,LOL


14 posted on 05/16/2018 6:55:50 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Kaslin

Why would anyone take Mueller’s word for anything?


15 posted on 05/16/2018 6:57:11 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Kaslin

Hillary thought she had cheated enough to win.


16 posted on 05/16/2018 7:00:39 PM PDT by captain_dave
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To: Kaslin

As a consequence ... if you can’t indict him then you can’t have a secret spy operation on him either.

If you can’t point to an actual crime you cannot subpoena him either.


17 posted on 05/16/2018 7:03:43 PM PDT by Fhios (Mr. Magoo or Rip Van Sessions?)
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To: Kaslin
this is all theatre and the general stupid public thinks something bad happened...

the rats and DS have accomplished what they wanted....

18 posted on 05/16/2018 7:06:40 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Rapscallion

At this point, I think Trump should declare that there is an asymmetrical civil war going on and proceed accordingly.


19 posted on 05/16/2018 7:06:45 PM PDT by Fhios (Mr. Magoo or Rip Van Sessions?)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Just because the President can pardon himself does not mean he can’t be indicted. There’s nothing else in the Constitution that comes anywhere close to forbidding it. It’s absurd to interpret the Constitution as creating a class of nobility that’s above the law.


20 posted on 05/16/2018 7:14:54 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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