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Time to Stop Comparing CIA/FBI Coup Attempt to Watergate Nothing Like This Has Happened Before
self | 05.18.18 | chickensoup

Posted on 05/18/2018 5:33:07 AM PDT by Chickensoup

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To: RayChuang88

It reminds me WAY too much of Reinhard Heydrich’s Sicherheitsdienst (SD) from the 1930’s and how it was used against political enemies, often with made-up dossiers (sounds really familiar?).

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The Leftist Fascists Ride Again

Part of their plan:

Saul Alinsky’s Rules from Rules for Radicals

Saul Alinsky describes 24 rules in Rules for Radicals. Of those 24 rules, 13 are rules of “power tactics”:

1. “Power is not only what you have but what the enemy
thinks you have.”

2. “Never go outside the experience of your people.”

3. “Wherever possible go outside of the experience of the
enemy.”

4. “Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.”

5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

6. “A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.”

7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”

8. “Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and
actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.”

9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing
itself.”

10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of
operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.”

11. “If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will
break through into its counterside.”

12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive
alternative.”

13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

The remaining 11 rules Alinsky describes are concerned with “the ethics of means and ends”:

1. “One’s concern with the ethics of means and ends varies inversely with one’s personal interest in the issue … Accompanying this rule is the parallel one that one’s concern with the ethics of means and ends varies inversely with one’s distance from the scene of conflict.”

2. “The judgment of the ethics of means is dependent upon the political position of those sitting in judgment.”

3. “In war the end justifies almost any means.”

4. “Judgment must be made in the context of the times in which the action occurred and not from any other chronological vantage point.”

5. “Concern with ethics increases with the number of means available and vice versa.”

6. “The less important the end to be desired, the more one can afford to engage in ethical evaluations of means.”

7. “Generally success or failure is a mighty determinant of ethics.”

8. “The morality of a means depends upon whether the means is being employed at a time of imminent defeat or imminent victory.”

9. “Any effective means is automatically judged by the opposition as being unethical.”

10. “You do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments.”

11. “Goals must be phrased in general terms like ‘Liberty, Equality, Fraternity,’ ‘Of the Common Welfare,’ ‘Pursuit of Happiness,’ or ‘Bread and Peace.’”


41 posted on 05/18/2018 7:10:52 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Chickensoup

The other day I was watching the movie Argo. The setting is Iran post the overthrow of the Shaw. People not loyal to the new regime were being rounded up and shot. Images of dead bodies hanging in the streets. It occurred to me that in most of history this is the norm when power is transferred from one group to another. The US system of elections and peaceful transfer of power is the exception. It appears that one side no longer wishes to play by those rules which will require a return to the other standard.


42 posted on 05/18/2018 7:30:46 AM PDT by CA_soon_gone
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To: Chickensoup

Yep, Watergate wasn’t even Watergate, it was the cover up that got Nixon. Nixon didn’t even know about what people under him were doing at the Watergate Hotel but by covering it up after the fact he became complicit.

Mueller is doing the same thing with his “collusion” investigation. It’s what they are calling “process crimes”. Really all it’s doing is causing taxpayers and defendants to lose a lot of money to line the pockets of shyster lawyers.


43 posted on 05/18/2018 7:53:04 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is a Malignant Moral Cancer on Society!)
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To: Chickensoup

The sedition, treason and high crimes of the coup make watergate look like an overdue library book.


44 posted on 05/18/2018 7:57:23 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Chickensoup
The one person who sat very close to the center of Watergate is now at the center of the problems we are now experiencing:


45 posted on 05/18/2018 8:26:01 AM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The Kenyanesian Usurpation and all of the crimes committed would not have been possible without the cooperation of the GOP.

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the nasty deep state has always held both parties in sway.


46 posted on 05/18/2018 8:50:28 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: CA_soon_gone

Images of dead bodies hanging in the streets. It occurred to me that in most of history this is the norm when power is transferred from one group to another. The US system of elections and peaceful transfer of power is the exception. It appears that one side no longer wishes to play by those rules which will require a return to the other standard.

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this is a powerful statement. We as a country need to choose whether to keep our civilized democratic republic or whether to go from strong man to strong man, under the Fascist Leftists.


47 posted on 05/18/2018 8:52:27 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Slyfox

I had forgotten that Clinton was in the middle of Watergate. And removed because of her insatiable immoral plans to overstep the judicial system.

Still the same woman.


48 posted on 05/18/2018 8:54:22 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Antipolitico
“Sessions has the chance of going down as a great AG if he take the IG report and runs with it.” __________________________________________________________

I have not made a decision about Sessions yet.

There is some advantage in doing investigations on the QT.

I think that treason is only punishable by death in war time. Treason is punishable by hefty fines and life inprisonment during peace time, they all deserve it. Comey, McCabe, Clapper, Lynch, Muller, Brennan, Hillary and Obummer. There are more but they were following orders and their time in prison should be a little less.

My hope is that Sessions with his various investigators/prosecutors has put together air-tight cases against all these evil players that would thwart the will of the people who elected the president.

Trump is an extremely intelligent person, high genius IQ, I doubt that anything gets past him. I have liked Sessions for a long time and have never considered him part of the swamp, I hope he is not. My hope is that the only thing Sessions has to do with the swamp is in draining it.

Our Mainstream press is actually the 5th column of destruction. I don't know what the answer is to them. We need a free press but fake new is really bad. I think libel laws should not protect fake news.

49 posted on 05/18/2018 10:31:33 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Chickensoup

You are right. They can not get away with this banana republic tactic. If they do get away with it, our democracy won’t last.

It is a confabulation of evil men and women coming together with an evil plan to undermine the American people and our constitutional republic. It is a constitutional crisis.


50 posted on 05/19/2018 1:28:38 PM PDT by SaraJohnson ( Whites must sue for racism. It's pay day.)
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To: CA_soon_gone

When I hear people complain about how...whatever...America is, I think to myself, “It’s so much worse most everywhere else and at about any other time you can think of in the rest of the world.

As much complaining as I hear, no one seems to be making great effort to leave. Rather, lawless efforts to enter and Herculean efforts to return. Both to enjoy the bounty of the hard workers and to keep up the drumbeat of complaint.


51 posted on 05/19/2018 10:08:24 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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