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The Myth of Conservative Feminism [NYT Barf]
The New York Times ^ | May 19, 2018 | Jessica Valenti

Posted on 05/19/2018 7:45:28 PM PDT by walford

There is a distinct lack of feminist celebration over these women ascending in these jobs — an absence that Republicans have criticized as hypocrisy. Shouldn’t we feminists be pleased by these shattered glass ceilings?

...Feminism isn’t about blind support for any woman who rises to power. The real political duplicity here is Republicans’ continued efforts to co-opt feminist language while actively curtailing women’s rights.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abortion; feminism; immigration; leftism
NYT unwittingly provides a clinic on why the Left is especially vicious toward Republican/conservative women.

The author utilizes Straw Man in claiming that conservatives are co-opting "feminist language while actively curtailing women’s rights."

What conservative claims to be a feminist or embraces feminist principles? We talk of and advocate empowerment. And let us guess what this singular "women's right" that is being alluded to. We do not consider #abortion to be a source of women's rights.

From a secular sense, it dehumanizes the baby in the womb when referred to as a 'fetus' and classified by the #CultureOfDeath as a STD. It transforms a young woman from being a Vessel of Life to drainer of men's gonads. Directly because of abortion-on-demand, young women are expected to service men sexually in order to gain social acceptance and job-security. Because in the back of everyone's minds, the unwanted result of reproductive activity can be extinguised if deemed inconvenient. Remove the baby and she can go back to being, as Dr Laura so aptly described, a "warm place to put it."

What is empowering about that?


"...there is nothing feminist about a [newly appointed CIA Director #GinaHaspel] who oversaw a site where detainees were tortured."

Whether #waterboarding is 'torture' is debatable. I'm torn on it and question whether it is effective. But advocating certain measures of obtaining information [from those who are hell-bent upon killing as many of us as possible and replacing our way of life with theirs] does not abdicate womanhood. Does it?

The Left considers Islamic terrorism to be a product of grievance [rather than strict adherence to Islamic principles, including spreading Islam by any means]. So to kill their rank-and-file and interrogate their leaders only perpetuates the injustice. A female who does not share this view of appeasement and apology is no longer a real woman?


"...there is nothing 'empowering' about [Fox News' Suzanne] Scott, a media executive who reportedly enforced a 'miniskirt rule' for female on-air talent, and who was cited in two lawsuits for contributing to a toxic work environment and retaliating against a sexual harassment victim."

Fox News was already losing me early in the 2016 primary campaign when it became clear that it was a mouthpiece for the GOP Establishment -- at the expense of the rank-and-file in being openly hostile to Donald J. Trump. They were siding with the RINOs in wanting to ignore the expressed will of its voting base ram an Establishment candidate down our throats who would then have emulated Romney in losing gracefully to Hillary.

But when Andrea Tantaros, Gretchen Carlson and others recounted Roger Ailes' boorish behavior, that was the last straw. I switched to One America News Network as my primary TV source of conservative news and commentary. But to allege that Suzanne Scott represents the archetypal female conservative news executive is a bit of a stretch.

The case certainly could be made with respect to Leftist #Hollywood men who are in positions of authority. There seems to be a common attitude amongst them that they are some kind of untouchable royalty -- and are entitled to take what they want. And, as we have seen with Corey Feldman's stories of sexual predation of young boys, a certain class of abusers remain untouched because they belong to a protected class. Likely, then, this subset of of sexual victimization continues with impunity in the entertainment industry.


"Conservatives appropriating feminist rhetoric despite their abysmal record on women’s rights is, in part, a product of the president’s notorious sexism."

Trump said some boorish things in what he thought were private conversations long before he was PoTUS. Try as they might, the Left-biased Establishment Media has failed to find anything like Bill Clinton's actual serial sexual predation. Trump never abused his position of authority to get young women to service him sexually. All they could come up with was a former porn star claiming that she had consensual sex with a known germophobe. [More recently, she seems to be recanting.]

Clinton raped at least one woman as Arkansas Attorney General. It was clear from her account that he was an experienced rapist. [You should put some ice on that."] Later, as Governor, he had State Troopers bring women to him so they could fellate him. This continued while he was PoTUS -- including imposing himself on a newly widowed aide.

For her part, his wife Hillary was often the chief Fixer in containing Bubba's 'bimbo-eruptions' including gleefully persecuting any of his victims who dared open their mouths to do anything but accept his gentleman's relish. Yet, Hillary was lauded as an example of what women could attain in her failed attempt to ride her charismatic husband's coat-tails into office.

And what were Feminists saying and doing when this could no longer be ignored by the #EstablishmentMedia? Being Leftists first, they actually said that 'powerful men have powerful urges' and even that they would gladly get on their knees for him if that's what it took to advance the Cause.

Given this, what self-respecting conservative woman would try to co-opt the Feminist mantle -- as if it were some kind of badge of honor?


"For years, those on the right called feminists 'man-haters' who were out to destroy the family, or argued that we were members of an irrelevant movement. Now that feminism is more culturally and politically powerful than it has been in decades, however, conservatives are eager to capitalize on its cachet. Or wield it as a cudgel."

The evidence is clear on this that the Left has been working hard to destroy the family to replace it with government ["it takes a village"]. Fathers in the home participating in child-rearing were an early target. Prior to LBJ's War on Poverty and Great society, the majority of black children were raised in two-parent homes. Then it was deemed by Leftist social engineers that black fathers are best replaced by white female social workers who wear sensible shoes.

The result of this has been nothing short of catastrophic. Since the '60s, every metric has been in the negative for black families. Increased are mental illness, poverty, crime victimization, underaged pregnancy, suicide, incarceration, truancy, dropping out -- and racial hatred borne of an inculcated sense of Victimhood and Entitlement.

Look at our culture today with respect to all fathers as depicted in Feminist-influenced TV and movies. With the notable exceptions of "Roseanne" and "Last Man Standing," fathers are typically portrayed as fat, lazy, inconsiderate, stupid, ignorant, selfish buffoons who must be nullified by their wiser wives and daughters.


"The conservative commentator Tomi Lahren, for example, has said that any woman who doesn’t support Ivanka Trump’s business because of her father’s policies isn’t 'really a feminist'...”

The viciousness that greets #PoTUS' daughter is nothing short of breath-taking in its gratuitousness. By all accounts, Chelsea Clinton was a "spoiled brat" toward Secret Service agents whom were unfortunate to be assigned to protect her. Jimmy Carter's daughter, Amie was also described as petty and mean. There were whispers about this behavior then and since, but neither of them had to suffer the sort of open -- and fashionable -- vitriol that is directed at Ivanka Trump.

She has been nothing but gracious, but her father's unspecified "policies" make her fair game -- unworthy of recognition for a Wharton alumna who graduated with honors and has since been successful in the private sector.


"When Sarah Palin was the vice-presidential nominee in 2008, conservatives suggested that feminists were hypocrites for not supporting her."

Feminists were not only withholding support, they were actively participating in savaging her for her looks, the fact that she didn't kill her Down Syndrome baby, laughing when Bill Maher called her a Cee-U-Next-Tuesday -- anything but her political history of standing up to the Good Ole Boy network, nor her ideology and policies. The attacks upon her were particularly personal by the Left as noted in the 2009 essay, "The Wilding of Sarah Palin."

We saw then, that if a woman dares to stray from the Hard-Left Democrat Plantation, she is fair game for the most vicious sexist vitriol.


"You cannot be a feminist and support an immigration policy of taking children away from undocumented immigrant mothers."

Pure propaganda. The immigration policy is that if you sneak into this country illegally, you're going to be sent back to your own homeland. If you want to keep your family intact, do not abandon them. The illegals are the ones choosing to leave their spouses and children behind as they keep trying to stay here and draw taxpayer-funded benes.


"You cannot be a feminist and go along with the White House’s newly announced domestic gag rule, a mandate that would withhold funding from any health care center that helps patients find abortion services."

Such health care centers are free to offer whatever services and advice they choose -- but not at taxpayers' expense. Those of us who object to abortion should not be forced to subsidize it.


"Now we have a different task: protecting the movement against conservative appropriation. We’ve come too far to allow the right to water down a well-defined movement for its own cynical gains. Because if feminism means applauding 'anything a woman does' — even hurting other women — then it means nothing."

All of these objections stem from the unreasoning dogmatic attitude that females who do not embrace unworkable Leftist orthodoxy are not real women at all.

You know what, you can keep the Feminist mantle. Given its history, it is nothing a conservative should embrace -- and I strongly discourage any conservative woman from calling themselves feminists.

Instead, they should talk of empowerment, universal principles, freedom and equality under the law -- things that the Left expressly abhors.

1 posted on 05/19/2018 7:45:29 PM PDT by walford
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To: walford

Feminism is a war on men and must be disavowed by all conservatives.


2 posted on 05/19/2018 7:52:11 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: walford

We advocate for women to chose their own destiny. We just don’t advocate for them to hate men, and swear off having children and raising them to respect our nation’s laws.

We advocate for stay at home moms. We do not expect them to stay there forever, we just recognize the things it takes to raise good well-balanced children with good male and female role models.

The Left hasn’t a clue.


3 posted on 05/19/2018 7:55:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: walford

Women should beware of democrat men supporting feminism. They’re the ones doing the beating, raping and murdering while singing their praises publicly.


4 posted on 05/19/2018 7:59:12 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Trillian

Well, after all, crime is tolerated by the Left. The important thing is that the perps vote for them.

Ever notice all the excuses the Leftists make for criminals? It’s never the fault of the criminal, society is so unfair and all.


5 posted on 05/19/2018 8:01:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yes, criminals are a constituency for the Left.

They create jobs for social workers, lawyers, judges, community organizers, etc.

That is one of the reasons they advocate unilateral disarmament for law-abiding citizens and become frothingly hysterical when a criminal is killed by his intended target.

As you noted, criminals are considered by the Left to be victims of society. [Similar to how they consider Islamic terrorists to be victims of America.] Law-abiding citizens are supposed to be passive victims. It is especially hoped that a pretty young Caucasian female will be savaged by a perpetrator who was born into a Designated Victim group.

Then we are supposed to wring our hands at what society must have done to make the perp do something so desperate. The publicity of a small young person with a bright future being subject to an horrible death at the hands of an ‘hopeless’ goon is supposed to motivate us to seek “root causes” and to find “positive alternatives” to robbing, raping and murdering.

Having a criminal offed instead messes all of that up.


6 posted on 05/19/2018 8:16:58 PM PDT by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford)
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To: walford

Yes, you’re on target there.

Look at Kate Stynal (sp? last name?) in San Francisco.

The homeless illegal alien killer was the real victim to the Leftists. Notice how they tried to blame the guy who left his backpack in a locked car.

Most folks recognize that breaking into a vehicle is a crime. Not the Leftists. Why it was the car owner’s fault.

B. S. 100%


7 posted on 05/19/2018 8:30:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: walford
Feminism isn’t about blind support for any woman who rises to power.

Unless it's Hillary. And all y'all let her down. Just axe her.
8 posted on 05/19/2018 8:37:32 PM PDT by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: walford

The Four Stages of Conservative Female Abuse
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/03/the-four-stages-of-conservative-female-abuse/


9 posted on 05/19/2018 8:58:25 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

Article is spot on. Any one in the certain selected groups who steps off the progressive thought plantation gets ridiculed.

Google what Bill Maher has said about Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin. Fist noticed this with the way they treated Justice Thomas. I suspect it was way before this.

These people are beyond disgusting.


10 posted on 05/19/2018 11:26:41 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: walford

Because the ONLY Feminism is Marxist and espouses militant feminazism.

If you don’t bow down to your militant lesbian masters, you are a traitor to the sisterhood and a slave of the patriarchy.


11 posted on 05/20/2018 2:12:22 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ads for Chappaquiddick warn of scenes of tobacco use. What about the hazards of drunk driving?)
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To: Architect of Avalon

What is branded as “feminism” is not pro-woman.

It advocates abortion of children (including girls) for matters as simple as “wrong sex” (wanted a boy, go ahead and kill that girl), it defends the pro-rapist Planned Parenthood (which coaches young girls to lie about the cause of their pregnancy from adult males including family members to avoid police investigations), and attacks any woman who’s political beliefs are counter to The Party.

They are silent when conservative women are called b****, c***, w****, and have rape jokes told about them and their daughters by Hollywood elites on national television.


12 posted on 05/20/2018 2:15:59 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ads for Chappaquiddick warn of scenes of tobacco use. What about the hazards of drunk driving?)
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To: walford

Heh....conservative women don’t “need” to call themselves “feminist”.....they just are.


13 posted on 05/20/2018 5:52:03 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: lizma2

The other point of bringing up a ten year old article is to show that liberals have been mocking conservative women as ugly, stupid, unattractive and as sexual objects for YEARS. And they’re doing it routinely to the degree they say conservatives do - an act of projection.


14 posted on 05/20/2018 9:41:04 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: DoughtyOne

The Kate Steinle case perfectly exemplifies the Leftist attitude toward illegal aliens and how they should replace us.

That pretty young woman of European descent represented everything that the Left hates. She was of child-bearing age, and therefore ‘threatened’ to bring more Caucasians into the world.

Her murderer, on the otherhand, represents the Hope and Future for the Party of Jim Crow. Hence, Leftist officials repeatedly caught-and-released him until he fulfilled his Grand Purpose in assassinating Kate Steinle.

He hails from a place in which corruption is the norm and questioning authority can be hazardous to one’s health. He did, therefore, a great service to the Hard Left in exterminating an entire bloodline in one fell swoop.


15 posted on 05/20/2018 10:03:10 AM PDT by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford)
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To: walford

We’re pretty much in agreement here.

I have no doubt that some in the Leftist leadership do harbor the thoughts you touch on there.


16 posted on 05/21/2018 11:26:10 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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