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Rep Congressman Dana Rohrabacher says it’s OK not to sell homes to gays; loses support of Realtors
The Orange County Register ^ | May 25nd 2018 | JEFF COLLINS

Posted on 05/25/2018 3:37:51 PM PDT by Ennis85

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To: George from New England

Well honestly, aren’t there some fairly extreme pieces of weirdness in that story?

2006-2007 home prices were at a peaky-peak secular high and the market was clearly running out of buyers. (easy to say in hindsight) With the “fog-a-mirror” financing that was in place at the time, a non-selling home is priced way high. That is largely true today, in fact, *any* time.

A realtor selling a home should take no more than 30 days, otherwise he/she is not in touch with the market.

That your former neighbor hates you because some blacks moved in is kind of tough luck.

In my view, all of those issues are the fault of your first realtor. The gist of the article in terms of what Rohrabacher is saying is that you should be able to choose “whom you do business with”. I don’t consider selling a house to be “doing business”, but that is quite arguable. A realtor is supposed to insulate you from most of that. But in terms of anti-discrimination laws in 50 out of 50 states, what your first realtor did was flamingly illegal, and unprofessional in terms of actively marketing your house at a marketable price.


41 posted on 05/25/2018 4:20:14 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: DesScorp

“Business which don’t follow the law, don’t stay in business very long.


42 posted on 05/25/2018 4:20:49 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Chickensoup

Yes ... services and/or mixed part-service part-product sales, but not pre-made off-the-shelf products.

I also think some standard services can’t be denied. For example, a tow truck driver can’t leave someone on the side of the road because he’s seen kissing his boyfriend when the truck arrives.

So my line would be services that would somehow force the seller into an implied endorcement of a lifestyle choice - which would include a religion or a sexual preference or gender identity (no, they’re not “born that way”), such as a wedding cake maker or wedding photographer,


43 posted on 05/25/2018 4:21:27 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: Ennis85

Idiot.


44 posted on 05/25/2018 4:21:55 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Hot Tabasco

I’m not making an argument based on law, I said it is a seller’s RIGHT to discriminate based on any criteria they wish. Not that it isn’t unlawful.


45 posted on 05/25/2018 4:24:07 PM PDT by fluffy
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To: Carry me back

Then do a “for sale by owner” and stipulate in the ad “no blacks”, “no Asians”, or “no gays” or “no single moms”. Seriously dont waste the time of people by advertising a home for sale when you only want to sell it to white people only.

No real estate company is going to risk their business for some crank’s demographic demands either. That is why they pulled any support for this candidate.


46 posted on 05/25/2018 4:24:17 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: morphing libertarian

Federal: https://www.hud.gov/program_offices/fair_housing_equal_opp/FHLaws

State of Cal: https://www.dfeh.ca.gov/housing/


47 posted on 05/25/2018 4:24:45 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: morphing libertarian
You can be sued and so can the realtors if they participate in discrimination

Unfortunately under the current law you can also be sued (and so can the realtors) if you DON'T discriminate. One person who "feels" like they've been discriminated against and you're in court.
48 posted on 05/25/2018 4:26:42 PM PDT by fluffy
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To: Ennis85

Geezers, Dama ....lie guess you aren’t interested in being in congress any longer


49 posted on 05/25/2018 4:27:56 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: fluffy

That is correct if they have an attorney who will help them. Any one can file a law suit if the judge accepts the case. Many RE cases are small claims court and there are no attorneys.


50 posted on 05/25/2018 4:28:28 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Mears

Some buyers are a pain in the Azz. Like lawyers. Sell to them at your own risk. Queer lawyers are even worse. You aren’t required to state your reasons for turning down an offer. Just keep you logic to yourself.


51 posted on 05/25/2018 4:28:56 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Ennis85

non discrimination has been the law since the late 60s including in Cal. Dana is way off base here and should know better.


52 posted on 05/25/2018 4:30:55 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Oldexpat

be careful, after you turndown a few, you may establish a pattern. Offers should remain in the realtors file for 5 years and the people making offers probably have a copy.


53 posted on 05/25/2018 4:32:10 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Ennis85

The original wording of the Declaration stated “Life,liberty and PROPERTY”. This BS inalienable right of “happiness” is partly to blame on our country going into the toilet.


54 posted on 05/25/2018 4:32:53 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

“Why should a person care about whom they sell their house to?”

Because often your neighbors are your friends and their kids are your kid’s friends...


55 posted on 05/25/2018 4:36:57 PM PDT by babygene (hMake America Great Again)
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To: Ennis85

Critizing gaydom is the third rail of politics.


56 posted on 05/25/2018 4:39:46 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Ennis85
I hate my neighbors. When I sell, I'm purposely looking for a pair of the biggest, blackest unrepentant rump rangers that I can sell to.
57 posted on 05/25/2018 4:45:52 PM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: Ennis85

Imagine that, some people don’t approve of disease-ridden sodomites living next door to same sex kids. Male queers are all potential same sex offenders of the worst brand.


58 posted on 05/25/2018 4:46:44 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: morphing libertarian
Any one can file a law suit if the judge accepts the case. Many RE cases are small claims court and there are no attorneys.

And (this is genuine curiosity) how often can discrimination actually be proved? Absent a sign that says "I don't sell to blacks" it seems like the standard of proof would have to be very low for anyone to actually be convicted.
59 posted on 05/25/2018 4:52:35 PM PDT by fluffy
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To: fluffy

witness, patterns, refusing a higher offer. Cases have been won before. The feds have sent black couples in to buy and made cases. They can do the same with gays.


60 posted on 05/25/2018 4:56:52 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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