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Sweeping gene survey reveals new facets of evolution
phys.org ^ | May 28, 2018 | Marlowe Hood

Posted on 05/29/2018 6:31:56 PM PDT by CondorFlight

Who would have suspected that a handheld genetic test used to unmask sushi bars pawning off tilapia for tuna could deliver deep insights into evolution, including how new species emerge?

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The study's most startling result, perhaps, is that nine out of 10 species on Earth today, including humans, came into being 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.

"This conclusion is very surprising, and I fought against it as hard as I could," Thaler told AFP.

(Excerpt) Read more at phys.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; cryptobiology; darwin; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; tilapia; tuna
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1 posted on 05/29/2018 6:31:56 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight

Rut ro.


2 posted on 05/29/2018 6:34:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: CondorFlight

“Deep insights into evolution.” Hogwash.


3 posted on 05/29/2018 6:36:14 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: CondorFlight
How does one explain the fact that 90 percent of animal life, genetically speaking, is roughly the same age?

Wow! God only knows how that could have happened!!

4 posted on 05/29/2018 6:36:34 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: CondorFlight

Wow! Another new proof of evolution. I can’t keep up. If this turns out to be true I think this makes 1.


5 posted on 05/29/2018 6:37:47 PM PDT by Joshua
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To: CondorFlight

Very interesting. Hints that Genesis might not have been 4,000 years ago, but 200,000.

Fascinating.


6 posted on 05/29/2018 6:41:12 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Joshua
If you'd like to 'see' evolution, this is a good experiment: link
7 posted on 05/29/2018 6:41:53 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: CondorFlight

Sweeping Gene Survey


Pretty sure I don’t have the sweeping gene. I usually just wind up tripping over the broom and making a big mess.


8 posted on 05/29/2018 6:43:40 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: CondorFlight
In the beginning, God created......

Science may get it right one day.

9 posted on 05/29/2018 6:48:58 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: marktwain
Very interesting. Hints that Genesis might not have been 4,000 years ago, but 200,000.

Give'em time to continue to refine the study.

I think we're going to have it closer to the Genesis account than most will want to admit.

10 posted on 05/29/2018 6:50:05 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: CondorFlight
Money quote from the article:

And yet—another unexpected finding from the study—species have very clear genetic boundaries, and there's nothing much in between.

"If individuals are stars, then species are galaxies," said Thaler. "They are compact clusters in the vastness of empty sequence space."

The absence of "in-between" species is something that also perplexed Darwin, he said.

Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-05-gene-survey-reveals-facets-evolution.html#jCp

11 posted on 05/29/2018 6:51:03 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: metmom; aMorePerfectUnion; Mom MD; Luircin; Old Yeller; Mark17; daniel1212; boatbums; Elsie

Thought you might enjoy the article.


12 posted on 05/29/2018 6:52:29 PM PDT by ealgeone
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“If individuals are stars, then species are galaxies,” said Thaler. “They are compact clusters in the vastness of empty sequence space.”

Obama thought he was a star.
His head was a vastness of empty sequence space.


13 posted on 05/29/2018 6:55:30 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))))))
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To: ealgeone

“Nothing comes from nothing
Nothing ever could”

- Maria, Sound of Music


14 posted on 05/29/2018 6:56:14 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: CondorFlight

Bookmark


15 posted on 05/29/2018 6:58:28 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: CondorFlight

“Life is fragile, susceptible to reductions in population from ice ages and other forms of environmental change, infections, predation, competition from other species and for limited resources, and interactions among these forces,” says Dr. Thaler. Adds Dr. Thaler, “The similar sequence variation in many species suggests that all of animal life experiences pulses of growth and stasis or near extinction on similar time scales.”

“Scholars have previously argued that 99% of all animal species that ever lived are now extinct. Our work suggests that most species of animals alive today are like humans, descendants of ancestors who emerged from small populations possibly with near-extinction events within the last few hundred thousand years.”

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So when the Global Warming scammers start whining about extinctions we can shove this in their faces.


16 posted on 05/29/2018 7:03:10 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: marktwain

Very interesting. Hints that Genesis might not have been 4,000 years ago, but 200,000.

Fascinating.

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What they are saying is that at any time in the past, most species will be about the same age, and young.

Of course, who knows if this new claim will hold up.


17 posted on 05/29/2018 7:05:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: CondorFlight
Very poorly written article.

My assumption would be that either the measurements are wrong; or, the rate of mitochondrial change is much slower than the baseline they are using.

The latter, I would think, is true since mitochondria are so fundamental to basic cell metabolism that just about any random mutation would be fatal. So the time frame to acquire random or even useful changes must be very lengthy.

18 posted on 05/29/2018 7:19:26 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Don’t tell Stephen Hawking.


19 posted on 05/29/2018 7:47:34 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: ealgeone
The absence of "in-between" species is something that also perplexed Darwin, he said.

That jumped out at me, too.

This is related to what Michael Behe says about "Irreducible Complexity".

Intracellular organelles are incredibly complex, but it's hard to see how they could have evolved incrementally, because they don't function incrementally. I mean that if an organelle lacks, say, one component out of 1,000, it doesn't merely work 1/1,000th less efficiently: it doesn't work at all.

So it seems there would be a lack of selection pressure for intermediate forms.

20 posted on 05/29/2018 7:48:31 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (From the Peaceful Hills of Upper East Tennessee)
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