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Tesla Veterans Reveal Fires, Accidents, and Delays Inside Elon Musk’s Company
The Daily Beast ^ | 06.05.18 | Edward Niedermeyer

Posted on 06/05/2018 8:54:52 AM PDT by george76

Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s attacks against “sanctimonious journalists” and “divisive” unions have captured the public’s attention in recent weeks, but Musk has bigger problems on his hands: His automaker has struggled to deliver on the promise of a mass-market fully electric car, the Model 3 sedan.

When Musk delivered the first Model 3s last year, he jokingly warned customers and employees that the firm would be entering “production hell.”

But according to several former Tesla insiders, it’s not a joke.

Cars built by hand, fires that turned a paint sprayer into a flamethrower, rampant quality problems, and a bloated workforce plague the factory, the insiders say. That’s on top of an injury rate that Reveal News reports is higher than the industry average, with shocking examples.

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a recently filed lawsuit on behalf of Tesla shareholders accuses the company of securities fraud, alleging management misrepresented Tesla’s ability to begin mass-production of Model 3s in 2017. The lawsuit cites more than 10 former employees to support the allegation that Musk and other top Tesla executives either knew, or were reckless in not knowing, their claims were false. Tesla filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit, saying it spoke about the challenges publicly in “frank and plain language” like “production hell.”

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More than 90 percent of new Model S and X vehicles contained defects requiring rework, Reuters reported in November, citing nine current and former employees. Two sources told The Daily Beast they estimate approximately 90 percent of all vehicles have required repair or rework at Tesla’s “end of line” stations.

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anything greater than 5 percent of vehicles needing rework would be a cause for serious concern.

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shutdowns and snafus regularly cost valuable production time caused by lack of maintenance.

Most dramatically, it has resulted in fires.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: edwardniedermeyer; elonmusk; musk; niedermeyer; tesla
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1 posted on 06/05/2018 8:54:52 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76
turned a paint sprayer into a flamethrower

So that's where that out-of-the-blue idea for a flamethrower came from. Lemons and lemonade.

2 posted on 06/05/2018 8:59:42 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: george76
But according to several former Tesla insiders, it’s not a joke.

So let me see, people who have been fired or otherwise parted from Tesla, now speak ill of the company.

Be still my heart...

3 posted on 06/05/2018 8:59:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: george76
More than 90 percent of new Model S and X vehicles contained defects requiring rework, Reuters reported in November, citing nine current and former employees. Two sources told The Daily Beast they estimate approximately 90 percent of all vehicles have required repair or rework at Tesla’s “end of line” stations.

Elon Musk rediscovers GM 1960s build quality.

4 posted on 06/05/2018 9:01:05 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: george76

I saw a great youtube video a while back where a family of four took a skiing trip in their tesla. They were wearing coats in the car because the heater takes a lot of battery power. There were other challenges too.

I see Teslas as great for situations where you do shopping trips, a short commute, or otherwise use your car within an “urban driving distance” and have lots of free recharge stations.

But I don’t see it as a real car. It’s more like a glorified golf cart. I say that as a person that enjoys road trips and has a 150 mile round trip commute.


5 posted on 06/05/2018 9:01:13 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: robroys woman

It’s a great fourth car for a rich guy.


6 posted on 06/05/2018 9:03:37 AM PDT by EEGator (The best part of freedom of speech is it lets one know who the a-holes are...)
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To: george76

Off Topic; Elon Musk making flamethrowers affordable and available to the general public was a dangerously dumb thing to do. Just wait till all the brush fires start, or private homes get burnt down.
Until then, it’s all a big joke to Elon.
A little boy’s flamethrowing fantasy brought to life.


7 posted on 06/05/2018 9:04:40 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: EEGator

It’s a great fourth car for a rich guy.
That’s exactly how I see it.

And it is not a particularly large market.


8 posted on 06/05/2018 9:05:51 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: robroys woman

“I see Teslas as great for situations where you do shopping trips, a short commute, or otherwise use your car within an “urban driving distance” and have lots of free recharge stations.”

$35,000-$44,000 is kind of expensive for an urban-only car that’s extremely uncomfortable in hot summers and brutal winters experienced by most of the regions of our country ...


9 posted on 06/05/2018 9:14:15 AM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: jiggyboy

Tesla is a great idea. Mass produce an electric car that is affordable for the masses, however, you don’t think that the current big 3 or 4 car companies can’t do this, and do it better?

I drive a Lexus hybrid RX, leased. Love it. Over the weekend I rented a jeep, (Compass?) that had the same technology. I’ve driven a Tesla. Amazing.

Next car I buy will be all electric.


10 posted on 06/05/2018 9:21:25 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: jiggyboy

The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

George Carlin


11 posted on 06/05/2018 9:27:07 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: catnipman

Yep. That’s why I see it as a fad.

The guy makes cool rockets, though.


12 posted on 06/05/2018 9:29:50 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: george76

He strayed from the Party line so the Beast must punish!


13 posted on 06/05/2018 9:39:56 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: robroys woman

“The guy makes cool rockets, though.”

no doubt about it: best rocket man since Wernher von Braun ...

of course, batteries are WAY harder than rockets ...


14 posted on 06/05/2018 9:40:20 AM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: george76

Auto plant not working??? Look over here at spaceX. SpaceX not flying? Ooooh then look over here at our boring machines. Those aren’t working? Got back to one

Musk has so many fooled. Investors no longer buying it. 3s production is a joke


15 posted on 06/05/2018 9:48:15 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: DoughtyOne

And they may well have more information than you. The 3s hasn’t got a production projection yet. Orders for that car have been taken with money in place. Where the hell us the product


16 posted on 06/05/2018 9:49:54 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: robroys woman
They were wearing coats in the car because the heater takes a lot of battery power.

Add a propane heater! I remember seeing propane refrigerators too. Wait, why don't we just skip the battery and just use propane or natural gas. Or gasoline.

What a joke battery powered cars are.

17 posted on 06/05/2018 10:00:37 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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What a joke battery powered cars are.


They really are. They are great if they are all you have, but when you do a simple T chart comparison to gasoline power, they are definitely a dumb idea. Now, if all you want is a drag racer for the 1/4 mile, well, they have a lot of torque. :)

They really are a solution looking for a problem.

That being said, when you get a battery that can cram a lot of BTU’s of power into the same space as gasoline, and transfer the power in a filling station just as fast, give me a call.


18 posted on 06/05/2018 10:03:33 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: catnipman

There are almost no Teslas in that price range. Any current ones are the up-level models that START at $44k. The one Motor Trend got to test was almost $60k. A $38k Chevy Bolt serves the same purpose.


19 posted on 06/05/2018 10:04:31 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Red Badger

Ping.


20 posted on 06/05/2018 10:36:57 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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