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Mass Hearings, Uncertain Futures for Migrants Separated From Their Children
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 10, 2018 | Alicia A. Caldwell

Posted on 06/11/2018 5:39:26 AM PDT by reaganaut1

MCALLEN, Texas— Norma Leticia Ulloa Montoya was arrested after rafting across the Rio Grande with her sons and illegally entering the U.S. A day later, she was sent to federal court here, separated from her children, 9 and 6 years old. It was unclear when she would see them again.

Ms. Ulloa joined more than 70 other migrants in a crowded courtroom in this South Texas city, including about a dozen other Central American parents. They faced misdemeanor charges for illegally entering the U.S., an offense that carries a maximum 6-month jail sentence.

“If one pleads guilty, does one have a right to stay in this country with their babies?” she asked U.S. Magistrate Judge Peter E. Ormsby through a translator. Judge Ormsby said he didn’t know if she or any other migrant in the courtroom could stay in the U.S., or when they might see their children again.

Her question strikes at the heart of a debate that has emerged after the Trump administration adopted a zero-tolerance policy last month to illegal immigration at the border, pursuing criminal charges against offenders, including parents with minor children. The goal is to slow the number of people trying to sneak across.

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, Attorney General Jeff Sessions and others in the Trump administration have said federal law requires them to separate children when their parents are being prosecuted and facing jail time. As a result, several hundred children have been separated from their parents who illegally crossed the border and have been placed in the care of the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement, according to federal immigration officials.

“If people don’t want to be separated from their children, they should not bring them with them,” Mr. Sessions said last week in an interview

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: illegal; illegalaliens; immigrations; sessions
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Even illegal aliens should not be separated from their children for long, so they and their children should be deported promptly. People who do not want to be separated from their children should not break into another country illegally.
1 posted on 06/11/2018 5:39:27 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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If they’d stayed in their own country instead of illegally crossing into ours they wouldn’t be separated.


2 posted on 06/11/2018 5:43:04 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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Now there you go again...speaking simple logic. It is so obvious, isn’t it? The liberal firestorm over this will be huge, however.


3 posted on 06/11/2018 5:48:47 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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“If one pleads guilty, does one have a right to stay in this country with their babies?”

That single question is just loaded with so much 'wrong'.

4 posted on 06/11/2018 6:08:07 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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Deport them all back to the illegal immigrant’s country of origin.

JoMa


5 posted on 06/11/2018 6:12:22 AM PDT by joma89
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Why the heck do invaders face jail time? They should be sent back home, with their children.


6 posted on 06/11/2018 6:14:14 AM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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And when u geet back to Mehsheethole tell all your friends and neighbors stay home. There’s a new sheriff in town!


7 posted on 06/11/2018 6:14:31 AM PDT by Gasshog ( Fight climate change - Try beating the air and scream at the sky)
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Uh-huh. And I am betting she was coached to say that. A 9-year-old and a 6-year-old are not babies.


8 posted on 06/11/2018 6:16:32 AM PDT by Bigg Red (The USA news industry, the MSM-13, takes a machete to the truth. {h/t TigersEye})
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While costly it serves at a greater deterrent rather than toss them back across the border to try again the next day.

The desire for American freebies is great we have to make fear of capture and consequences Greater.


9 posted on 06/11/2018 6:18:21 AM PDT by Gasshog ( Fight climate change - Try beating the air and scream at the sky)
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If Mrs DoodleBob and I were scofflaws and were pondering illegally entering Lichtenstein and thought the likelihood of us being separated from the little DoodleBobs was high, I think we'd stay at home.

To be fair, this threat of separation was small under the Obama regime. And, to be sure, a parent may face a Hobson's choice in staying in, say, North Korea vs risking separation. I get it.

But Mexico isn't NK. And Trump has been around for about 18 months. So...The question not being asked is: what does it say about the parents, that they're willing to risk separation from their flesh and blood, in breaking the law?

10 posted on 06/11/2018 6:19:25 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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Ship them home immediately.


11 posted on 06/11/2018 6:22:13 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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Why the heck do invaders face jail time?

Because our borders are still so porous that they can try, try again to cross again with a decent chance of escaping detection and reaching the land of welfare and honey.

If the only penalty for breaking in is removal and a chance to try again, the disincentive isn't strong enough. Ideally, with a strong border (Wall plus patrol), we could do as you suggest.

12 posted on 06/11/2018 6:26:17 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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It’s a problem that they’re in the country. The children are getting a summer camp opportunity that US citizens can only dream of while the haters of US sovereignty are outside protesting. It must be tempting to Central American parents to bring their children here for such a wonderful free of charge opportunity.


13 posted on 06/11/2018 6:30:30 AM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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They don’t need to be held over to await a judge. BP should be able to deport them on the spot. It should be catch and deport.


14 posted on 06/11/2018 6:30:47 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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It is the deportees themselves who chose to be seperated from their children.

They set themselves up as martyrs.

There are no restrictions on the part of the US Government that prevent them from taking their families with them.


15 posted on 06/11/2018 6:36:26 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (The only trannie I want to see is a Muncie 4 Speed M-22 Rock Crusher)
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Maggots who send their kids to the U.S. as “unaccompanied” SHOULD BE “separated from their children”. They gave up their children when they pushed them across the border “unaccompanied” or turned them over to “coyotes”.


16 posted on 06/11/2018 6:41:40 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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“If people don’t want to be separated from their children, they should not bring them with them,” Mr. Sessions said last week in an interview

Actually, Mr. Sessions, they SHOULD bring their children, with them when they are deported.


17 posted on 06/11/2018 6:42:08 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (The only trannie I want to see is a Muncie 4 Speed M-22 Rock Crusher)
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Funny how nobody seems to care about the thousands of American kids of military personnel who are separated from their deployed moms or dads.


18 posted on 06/11/2018 6:45:27 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: reaganaut1

I wonder...

Would Alicia A. Caldwell be willing to write a soap opera pity-party story for American Service people who often leave their children at home to fight our wars... And sometimes NEVER see their children again.

Well Alicia how about it?

Will you show us you care about your fellow citizens as much as you ‘care’ about illegals who steal our jobs and commit crimes against all of us?

I didn’t think so...


19 posted on 06/11/2018 7:42:17 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC Bimbos/democrats demand 'respect' for porn stars, hookers, ...MS13 but NOT Melania.)
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“........they and their children should be deported promptly.”........

Problem is, they will return ASAP, hoping to avoid being caught once again. This is a never ending problem that will NOT be resolved anytime soon.


20 posted on 06/11/2018 7:48:53 AM PDT by DaveA37
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