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To: 2ndDivisionVet; af_vet_1981
That the home of the reformation is now mostly godless is tragic.

Both Russia and Germany have a long way to go from recovering from their Soviet/Nazi pasts -- but in Germany's defense, they are OVER-compensating in their wrestling with guilt...hence the migrant crisis. They feel that by taking in this generation's refugees, they are atoning for their past.

However, churches are not governments and the fact is: numerous orphans and refugees have converted to Christianity upon their arrival in Germany. That reality is not to be undermined or insulted.

Germans also pay reparations to Jewish families. Germany (with America's help) persecuted Nazi war criminals. And despite my problems with the EU and Ms. Merkel: I do believe God has looked well upon Germany and there's a reason for their great success and booming economy.

Russia has done none of the above in terms of wrestling with their past. They put on a good show with their Crosses and Candles and yet they're at war with Ukraine. Kiev is the spiritual cradle of all Russian civilization and right now Russians and Ukrainians are at war. Thousands are dead and the war continues. Orthodox Christians are split and divided.

12 posted on 06/14/2018 8:23:02 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
... but in Germany's defense, they are OVER-compensating in their wrestling with guilt...hence the migrant crisis. They feel that by taking in this generation's refugees, they are atoning for their past.

Cognitive dissonance

The assertion that Germany OVER-compensating in their wrestling with guilt by importing radical Islamic immigrants who hate Israel and the Jews and by that Germany is atoning for their past makes no sense whatsover.

The German government, led by Angela Merkel, is against Jerusalem. The Russian goverment, led by Vladimir Putin, is celebrating Russia Day in Jerusalem. Netanyahu said that he has “great respect for Russia for its contributions to civilization and for the courage of its people.” The prime minister noted the critical role the Red Army played in the defeat of Nazi Germany, saying “we never forget the sacrifice of the Russian people and the Red Army in the defeat of the Nazi monster.”
14 posted on 06/14/2018 8:42:51 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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