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Trump Retreats on Separating Families, but Thousands Will Remain Apart
NYTimes ^ | 6-20-2018 | MICHAEL D. SHEAR, ABBY GOODNOUGH and MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 06/20/2018 6:21:09 PM PDT by tcrlaf

President Trump caved to enormous political pressure on Wednesday and signed an executive order meant to end the separation of families at the border by detaining parents and children together for an indefinite period.

“We’re going to have strong — very strong — borders, but we are going to keep the families together,” Mr. Trump said as he signed the order in the Oval Office. “I didn’t like the sight or the feeling of families being separated.”

But Justice Department officials said it was not clear whether the practice of separating families could resume after 20 days if a federal judge refuses to give the government the authority it wants to hold families together for a longer period.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: children; immigration; lies
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"Trump Retreats..." "Trump Gives Up....", "Trump Defeated..." This whole thing was a faked media outrage project from the beginning...

Now libs are cheering about "Defeating Trump!!!"

1 posted on 06/20/2018 6:21:10 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf
Andrew Cuomo on MSNBC Chris Hayes tonight:Trumps order keeping families together is illegal (MSNBC/CNN | 6/20/2018 |)

ACLU suing to stop it.

2 posted on 06/20/2018 6:24:00 PM PDT by sickoflibs ('Equal protection' only applies to illegals not you!)
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To: tcrlaf

Yep, just as Rush Limbaugh predicted.

Leftists are so transparent.


3 posted on 06/20/2018 6:24:04 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: tcrlaf

And this is why you never give leftists anything. It’s never good enough, and they always want more. Their goal is absolute, unquestioned, unchecked power and they will kill to get it.


4 posted on 06/20/2018 6:26:27 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: tcrlaf

Hopefully the family units will be adjudicated first and sent back within the 20 days. I hope they set up an assembly line with the door opened onto the tarmac where a big military plane sits to move them back to their country.


5 posted on 06/20/2018 6:27:14 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NorthMountain

Yup. He should rescind the EO and tell them to just send him wall funding if they truly want to avoid these humanitarian crises. He’s not a king and his only option is to execute the laws on the books.


6 posted on 06/20/2018 6:29:52 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: sickoflibs

No problem then. It will be once again the fault of the Judge meddling in crafting law when the little ones are in playland while Mommie sits her illegal behind in jail.


7 posted on 06/20/2018 6:30:43 PM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz)
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To: tcrlaf
What Trump did was asked the court to change the settlement order that requires children to be freed even if their parents still are detained for a refugee hearing.

I hope that either the court refuses or that the ACLU and a bunch of leftist state attorneys generals sue saying you cam’t hold the children and the solution is to release both children and parents.

If that happens, I expect Trump to hammer the Democrats and the courts and use it as an excuse to get more judicial appointments approved. Then propose a new law to be passed by the Republican House that would pull the legal rug out from under the court settlement.

8 posted on 06/20/2018 6:35:48 PM PDT by Robert357 ( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
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To: tcrlaf; unkus; SkyPilot; bitt; Kaslin; vette6387; mazda77; JLAGRAYFOX

Send two or three of these poor illegal children to live with crying and hand wringing Liberals including politicians like Schumer, Pelosi, Cumming, Waters, Feinstein, Jerry Brown, Becerra, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, Cuomo, DeBlasio, et al. and send two or three of these children to each of the MSM especially Whorealdo. Let them spend their own money to support the poor children! And, to not be outdone, send two or three to each of the Liberals in Hollyweird.


9 posted on 06/20/2018 6:40:41 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: tcrlaf

Immigration policy cannot be made on feelings.


10 posted on 06/20/2018 6:42:05 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Stop it
The kids don’t deserve that!


11 posted on 06/20/2018 6:49:59 PM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: MountainWalker
He’s not a king and his only option is to execute the laws on the books.

I wouldn't mind seeing the execution of traitors to this country.

12 posted on 06/20/2018 6:54:23 PM PDT by FatherofFive (deIslam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: tcrlaf

“Trump Retreats...”

How does Trump “retreat” from a policy that wasn’t his to begin with?


13 posted on 06/20/2018 7:02:41 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: NorthMountain
Their goal is absolute, unquestioned, unchecked power and they will kill to get it.

Sadly, many American voters born in recent decades are not aware leftist have in fact killed millions of their own people in domestic power struggles. The leftist in our nation's education system and our MSM prefer to avoid the subject.

14 posted on 06/20/2018 7:03:46 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Obama's "Remaking of America" will continue in the absence of effective political opposition.)
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To: tcrlaf

The left will force POTUS to choose between a completely open border...and family separations.

He will choose separations.

This EO is only so that he could say he tried.

But I do not believe he will stop prosecuting the crime of illegal entry.

What we need is law that allows the Border Patrol to refuse entry in all cases where a visa cannot be presented. And allows immediate removal of those caught here illegally without judicial review or appeal.

Then those families would remain together.

If Republicans in Congress were worth a sh!t, they have it on his desk in 5 days.

But, alas, they are not worth a sh!t. So the stalemate will continue.


15 posted on 06/20/2018 7:14:21 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: sickoflibs

They are going to take their victory and make it a defeat.Once they start pursuing lawsuits that would force a catch and release situation, they will lose all the ground they gained.
The liberals boxed themselves on this issue. They should really stop it now if they want to look good to the voters, but I bet you they will screw themselves up by going further on this issue.


16 posted on 06/20/2018 7:16:18 PM PDT by kaila
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To: MountainWalker
He should rescind the EO

He won't have to ... some arsewipe "judge" will do it for him, and he can just wash his hands of the matter ... and go back to enforcing the law.

17 posted on 06/20/2018 7:28:03 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: tcrlaf

Just how old are some of these children anyway. . .regardless . . .put parent and child(if they really are) hand in hand and escort them back across the border.


18 posted on 06/20/2018 7:43:24 PM PDT by Maudeen (http://ThereIsHopeinJesus.com/)
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To: tcrlaf

Thread by @ThomasWictor:

"(1) @RoyalTXGirl asks a question. (2) Let me explain how @realDonaldTrump works. It's similar to the advice I got back when I was trying to […]"


(1) @RoyalTXGirl asks a question.

(2) Let me explain how @realDonaldTrump works.

It's similar to the advice I got back when I was trying to be a successful author.

(3) A VERY skilled editor told me the following:

"Every single sentence you write must advance the plot."

(4) It's how I write my tweet threads.

People compliment me on them.

Well, I'm working hard to make them compelling.

(5) Every tweet must advance the "plot" of the thread.

No wasted words.

(6) Every action Trump takes is in service to the "plot."

The SPECIFICS don't matter, because we're talking VERY small numbers of people.

(7) Remember the Central American Caravan Juggernaut of Death?

Remember the HYSTERIA?

The caravan barely existed. It totally petered out.

(8) That's because the CARAVAN wasn't the plot.

"Democrats are the party of illegal immigration" is the plot.

(9) What did Sessions and Trump accomplish with this whole "family separation" issue?

They alerted Americans that entire illegal FAMILIES are coming.

AND.

(10) Americans saw the Democrats fighting tooth and nail to allow entire illegal families to pour into the country through the southern border.

Another sentence that advanced the plot.

(11) The Democrats are the party of illegal immigration."

(12) A subplot that makes the plot more compelling:

Democrats are wildly insane.

(13) Elected official @BrianSimsPA greets the vice president of the United States.

(14) Denise Christiansen @denisec_smiles demands action.

(15) The plot is that the Democrats are the party of illegal immigration, and the subplot is that the Democrats are utterly deranged with hate.

Every action Trump takes is advancing the plot and subplot.

(16) Of course Trump didn't MAKE Brian and Denise go round the bend.

They always WERE round the bend.

Trump simply does and says things that he knows will goad people into losing it.

(17) How carefully does Trump think out his plots?

THIS carefully.


Kim Jong Un ends visit to China with a message for the US

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un ended a celebratory visit to China's President Xi Jinping on Wednesday with tea, praise, handshakes -- and a message for the US.


 

(18) Everything that every single person says in this article is wrong.

The entire piece is malarkey on every level.

Why do I say that?

(19) CNN itself reported why everyone is wrong.


CIA Director Mike Pompeo secretly met with North Korea's Kim Jong Un

CIA Director Mike Pompeo visited North Korea more than two weeks ago for a secret meeting with leader Kim Jong Un in Pyongyang, sources confirmed to CNN.


 

(20) "Pompeo, who is US President Donald Trump's nominee for Secretary of State, didn't take any officials from the White House or State Department with him on the trip, only intelligence officials, one source said Tuesday."

(21) The CIA Director secretly went to Pyongyang and took only intelligence officials.

It didn't leak.

(22) Am I the only one who understand what happened?

Pompeo set up a secure video link between Kim and Trump.

That's the end of the problem.

(23) Trump is still pushing China over trade.

That means China no longer has leverage over North Korea.

(24) North Korea can now communicate directly with South Korea and the US without Chinese interference.

I shouldn't be amazed that "experts" are too stupid to see any of this, but at some point you start getting really paranoid:

Doesn't anyone know anything?

(25) The reality is that a SMALL NUMBER of people know what's happening, and all of them are in control right now.

So we are in good hands.

(26) What's this?

(27) When I pull back far enough, you can see the big picture.

You were looking at approximately five square inches of the elephant's left front leg.
 

(28) We're on a safari right now.

Do want to take a magnifying glass and examine each left front leg of each animal, or do you want to stay in the jeep and watch the whole scene from a distance?

(29) My unsolicited advice to you is to put away your magnifying glass and enjoy the scenery.

Everybody's telling you that the elephant is a hay baler, or a sewage treatment plant, or Nancy Pelosi's ball gown.
 

(30) They're all wrong.

It's an elephant, but they'll never see it...

 

19 posted on 06/20/2018 7:50:14 PM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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President Trump did not retreat on anything. He was merely following the same law the Obama and Bush did. They did nothing about it and President Trump has.


20 posted on 06/20/2018 7:55:12 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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