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If Conservatives Set Aside Civility To Fight The Left’s Rude Provocation, We Will All Lose
The Federalist ^ | June 27, 2018 | Georgi Boorman

Posted on 06/28/2018 6:51:45 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: Lent

You just summarized “the Bush Doctrine”


61 posted on 06/28/2018 7:25:54 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: livius
Trump is right to fight back, although sometimes I wish he’d aim a little higher and get at the true problem, which is not “in civility” or rude speech, but the fact that they are trying to provoke a breakdown in the social order.

I think you're spot-on. I also think that what was referred to as the "silent majority" in the past see's exactly what you see. I hear it all the time almost everywhere I go and from almost everyone I know.

I think of PDJT actually said what you suggest, the lying liberal lamestream propaganda machine would have an outright stroke and right-thinking American people of good will would cheer.

62 posted on 06/28/2018 7:27:05 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Ken H
If we fight back, the liberals win. We’re better than that.

Your ARE being sarcastic, right?

63 posted on 06/28/2018 7:27:21 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: al_c
I believe that will be one of the results. But then a redoubling of the enforcement of the law will have to be on its heels.
Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

— Ecclesiastes 8:11
The virtual death threats by the left need addressing. They need to fear reprisal.
64 posted on 06/28/2018 7:27:58 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: C19fan

Wrong!

The Left abandoned civility in 1972, as soon as the ink dried on Alinsky’s manuscript.

We took it on the chin from them for 4 1/2 decades, until Trump came along.

Now we are WINNING. It pays to fight back.


65 posted on 06/28/2018 7:28:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: C19fan

I think the author is half right.

No we should not be weak or defensive.

But we can be strong, forceful, not defensive and still do it in a civil manner that cuts their defense because we are not the flaming mad-men they are. If we do it rigt, the public will get it. We are not weak and defensive, but we are not like the Left.


66 posted on 06/28/2018 7:28:44 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: C19fan

We should fight the left as hard as possible, but do it legally.

The red hen is a win for us. the woman who owns it resigned from a business board, her restaurant is closed until july 5 because of protestors, so she loses all that business. She may lose more when she reopens. their yelp rating is in the toilet.


67 posted on 06/28/2018 7:28:52 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (Good intentions? Most leftists would throw every one of us in Gulag if they could get away with it)
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To: Ken H

Yes.

Trump is a Nazi.


68 posted on 06/28/2018 7:29:23 AM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: usconservative; livius
they are trying to provoke a breakdown in the social order.

No. They have already effected a breakdown in our social order. Their social order was working just fine for them.

69 posted on 06/28/2018 7:29:40 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: C19fan

Amen you don’t fight back with the vileness of the left, you make it public, you point out their hypocrisy, and if they are in business, you boycott them.


70 posted on 06/28/2018 7:30:17 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Sequoyah101; C19fan

“Turn the other cheek”

does NOT mean never fight or defend yourself. I read an essay recently and according to that essay, in Biblical times a slap on the cheek was a personal insult. (Maybe like “yo momma” today?) The directive to turn the other cheek means to ignore personal insults.

It does NOT mean you shouldn’t fight.

In the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus told the disciples to arm themselves with swords.


71 posted on 06/28/2018 7:30:54 AM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: AndyJackson
No. They have already effected a breakdown in our social order. Their social order was working just fine for them.

I cannot argue against your conclusion.

72 posted on 06/28/2018 7:33:17 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: AndyJackson; publius911

You seem to misunderstand my comment. Its not about “shutting up.”


73 posted on 06/28/2018 7:34:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: C19fan

It is time to fight them. When using words, go on the offensive always and without remorse. Don’t fall for the Alinsky trick of making us stick to our rules. Change the rules. The days of the “nice” conservative need to end last year! In fact, we need to become Constitutionalists and throw away the baggage of the old “conservatism”.

And when they go physical, we go medieval! They are prancing unicorns and we need to be angry bears. Make them fear confrontation with us.


74 posted on 06/28/2018 7:34:51 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: mosaicwolf
If the Marxists are not destroyed they will destroy us.

It only took 2% to overthrow the Russian government in 1917. They did it by manipulating the ignorant masses and with extreme violence.

75 posted on 06/28/2018 7:35:35 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: generally
It does NOT mean you shouldn’t fight.

But that is exactly what the left means when they call for "civility" from the right.

Civility means they win because their definition of civility means you can't fight for what you believe in because that is disparaging of what they believe in, which is uncivil.

76 posted on 06/28/2018 7:35:46 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Olog-hai
But then a redoubling of the enforcement of the law will have to be on its heels.

Agreed.

77 posted on 06/28/2018 7:36:27 AM PDT by al_c (https://conventionofstates.com)
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To: C19fan

If those who hate you make war on you, you are at war whiter you believe it or not. And when in a war you should fight to win.


78 posted on 06/28/2018 7:38:09 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: PGR88
But you shutting up is what we in DC mean when we call for civility. I have lived here far too long and watched this nonsense go on and on. It's how the left maintains control of everything from the Congress to the school boards to community property associations.

The right surrendered that ground to the left decades ago.

79 posted on 06/28/2018 7:38:35 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: C19fan

You know...the Lord never said that we had to turn the other cheek endlessly. We’ve been doing that for decades. No more. It’s time to fight back while there’s still something worth fighting for.


80 posted on 06/28/2018 7:39:13 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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