Posted on 07/03/2018 9:26:53 PM PDT by cba123
I hope the exploration team managed to figure out a way to get some supplies to them. They might just have to live under there for a long time while a slow dig (or enlargement of passages) goes on.
thanks for that post
Very informative
You expect kids that can’t swim to go cave diving?
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3668144/posts?q=1&;page=112#112
Earlier thread with good information and discussions.
Prayers for everyone.
"....But because most of the children, whose ages range from 11 to 16, can’t swim, the easiest rescue option would be to “keep pumping water out of the cave.”
Yes. Pump like crazy and let the kids walk and crawl out the same way they got in. Not as glamorous but the practical way to get them out.
Trying to drill a large bore hole to some location? That has worked in the Western world where you have good engineers, the equipment and the resolve to do it right. These will be Thai drilling crews doing it so based on my experience I would not bank on a good outcome trying to use a technical solution to the problem.
Pumping water? They can do that.
Looking at the maps that BBell posted, I suspect the problem with trying to drill to the trapped kids is not the competence of the drilling crews, but getting their rigs safely above the cave system. Building the road and platform is likely a couple of week effort after you have determined where to drill. It also sound like the cave system is at best partially mapped meaning that determining where to drill could take some time.
the enterance of the cave is now below water level .
the only way for them to get OUT is if they wear SCUBA
and dive under water and are physically lead OUT by pro divers
Seems that way to me, but then I'm not some super duper cave expert type. (They probably over think every detail of the rescue.)
That was sick, disgusting, and I can’t stop laughing at your humor!
Judging by the maps and pictures, it does look as if the area above there they are doesn't have any caves that could flood.
+2.
A few weeks time that those kids probably don't have. After living here a decade I would not put all my marbles in the basket that says they can get this done right. And while I love being retired here, their technical expertise has been shown lacking in many ways.
Pump like crazy. They will likely need to do that anyway if they decide to leave them there for weeks, hoping against hope that a large bore drilling rig can solve the predicament they are in.
I'll check with the significant other when she gets home from work about what Thai language news is saying about it.
Whose brilliant idea was that? After rescue they should be executed. I won’t even go into a fake coal mine at the Museum of Science and Industry.
It's actually the Cajun Navy...
16 feet is NOT very deep, so the most dangerous aspect would be the narrowness of some of the passages.
They should bring the kids food to boost their strength, then have two SEALS guide one person at a time back through the caves, utilizing long air hoses, rather than have the kids actually wearing tanks.
The fact that the kids don’t know how to swim shouldn’t matter as far as moving them along the pathway, but often times such people panic when they put their faces in the water. For them I would suggest some kind of MILD sedative, enough to calm their nerves without making them drowsy. Again, 16 feet is VERY shallow for diving.
The assistant soccer coach. I advocated on another thread that he should be strung up. I’m sure some pissed off locals will have a lot to say to him.
None (or at least some -- reports vary) of the kids can swim.
And the passages are so narrow that they'll fit just one man at a time with one air tank.
So, at least part of the way, the children would have to be swimming alone in zero-visibility. The sheer panic of a non-swimmer in those conditions might well not be worth the risk.
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