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'We are the casualty:' US pig farmers brace for second round of pork tariffs from China, Mexico
CNBC ^ | 7/4/2018 | Jeff Daniels

Posted on 07/04/2018 11:23:56 AM PDT by Poison Pill

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To: TheBattman
That, of course, would be assuming that the tariffs stay.

How long do you figure these farmers can run significantly below break even?

21 posted on 07/04/2018 11:49:59 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Nifster
Wait and see what happens

...says the guy who farm isn't on the line?

22 posted on 07/04/2018 11:52:11 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: DannyTN
I am noticing a lot of signs close to Smithfield, NC declaring, "Stand Up for Hog Farmers."

They don't tell the rest of the story. They are damn sure ignorant of the cyber theft China continues to engage in.

23 posted on 07/04/2018 11:53:44 AM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Poison Pill

Note to US pork farmers: A lot of you shouldn’t have been so keen to get rid of COOL for your pork. I’d be happier to pay more for pork (and beef) that I knew came from the US.

And, yes, farmers, that was a hint.


24 posted on 07/04/2018 11:59:02 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: TheBattman

I heard the US is sending David Hogg to negotiate.

He’ll hit a home run diplomatically.

Maybe an “inside the pork home run” but it still counts.


25 posted on 07/04/2018 12:02:39 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End non-citizen voting ,vote fraud & leftist media news censorship or we're finished.)
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To: DannyTN

Exactly


26 posted on 07/04/2018 12:03:56 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Please Pray For My Brother Ken)
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To: Poison Pill

That’s what happens when your business is based on subsidies and perpetual debt. Granted, it’s not ALL the farmer’s fault as food stuff has become overly regulated and bought out by Big AG. Hard for the small to mid sized farm to sustain. There’s an old saying though. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket. Put another way; don’t sell one solitary product to one solitary market. When I had a business, business would drop to almost nothing for 3-4 months out of every year. Likewise, there can be recessions. Being a business owner means being prepared for that sort of thing. If you’re making $50k per year but perpetually in debt to the tune of $500k per year, not sustainable. Find a new business or go work for someone.


27 posted on 07/04/2018 12:04:27 PM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Pollard
Don’t put all your eggs in one basket. Put another way; don’t sell one solitary product to one solitary market.

This does seem to be spurring some diversification. It looks like the ones who will be investing will be doing it oversees. Just like Harley Davidson.

28 posted on 07/04/2018 12:09:02 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: MtnClimber

I have five racks of baby backs in the charcoal smoker.


29 posted on 07/04/2018 12:14:27 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: Poison Pill

Jeeeeeez...I would ONLY buy American made pork products. I would never want to risk consuming worm eaten chinese or mexican pork goods. Who would even consider it?!?!?


30 posted on 07/04/2018 12:19:54 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Oh boy just give them more subsidies I guess.


31 posted on 07/04/2018 12:21:29 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: Poison Pill

Smaller pig farmers are not under the same “threat” as this large scale pig guy. He’s selling to China not the US.

He’ll have to adjust markets.

Or Trump and China will come to a new trade agreement


32 posted on 07/04/2018 12:23:10 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: DannyTN

I lived in China. The local don’t eat their domestic pork if they can avoid it. They’ll pay the extra.


33 posted on 07/04/2018 12:23:16 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: Poison Pill

“Maschhoff said the farm industry has been “asked to be good patriots. We have been. But I don’t want to be the patriot who dies at the end of the war.”

Laughable. This good Patriot has lobbied constantly the flood the country with Mexicans.


34 posted on 07/04/2018 12:30:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Caipirabob

How do you know where your pork muscle comes from? Groceries don’t have to provide the info, and our local ones haven’t exactly been forthcoming with the info. And our butcher shops went belly up a while ago.


35 posted on 07/04/2018 12:30:22 PM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: Nifster
He’ll have to adjust markets.

He's already doing that. He's investing in overseas production like Harley Davidson is doing.

36 posted on 07/04/2018 12:32:56 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Poison Pill

These farmers may hurt for a little while. Then things will change. Trump is not a protectionist. He is interested in equalizing with the tariffs imposed by other nations on AMerican exports until those other nations understand that no tariffs is a better deal all around than tariffs. Actually, we did very well for decades letting the rest of the world tax our exports much more than we taxed theirs because the American worker in the American industrial milieu is much more productive per dollar of input(wage, overhead, taxation) than that $1 an hour fellow in Malaysia. But then our own governments\ loaded up American industry with a heavy overdose of regulation which is very costly to the point that the American worker can no longer compete with the Malaysian.DJT has embarked on fixing a lot of that. It requires Congress to dissolve the whole system- abolish departments, etc. and reduce business taxes and Cap Gains, ideally to nothing. If that is done then the once-American industries and every other country’s industry will be trying to relocate to America as fast as they can.


37 posted on 07/04/2018 12:41:39 PM PDT by arthurus (sty)
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To: TheBattman

last I checked, the Chinese like their pork.

Gotta take the Sweet with the Sour!


38 posted on 07/04/2018 12:48:35 PM PDT by Gasshog ( Fight climate change - Try beating the air and scream at the sky)
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39 posted on 07/04/2018 1:06:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: MtnClimber

The Chinese tariffs on pork means more bacon, ribs and sausage for me.


40 posted on 07/04/2018 1:15:24 PM PDT by henkster (Monsters from the Id.)
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