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France says Europe united against U.S. tariffs as Germany eyes negotiation
Reuters ^ | July 8, 2018 6:41 AM | Leigh Thomas, Pascale Denis

Posted on 07/08/2018 5:42:59 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: Telepathic Intruder

The EU was created to take relatively weak nations like the UK and France, take away their sovereignty and put them all at the mercy of Germany.


21 posted on 07/08/2018 7:42:14 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

It seems the EU was also created as a competitor to the U.S. They don’t consider us as much an ally as we’d like.


22 posted on 07/08/2018 8:08:17 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Vince Ferrer

“Second, it can raise tariffs on cars. France doesn’t care about either, but Germany will care a lot.”

France can afford ont to care about car tariffs, since they don’t export cars here. They tried years ago with the Renault Dauphine, but it was a worthless piece of crap! But France “can point with pride” to the Citroen 2CV! Everyone here is just dying to get one of those indolent greenhouses on wheels.


23 posted on 07/09/2018 12:25:46 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: The Deplorable Miss Lemon

“Maybe if they had to pay for something once in awhile they wouldn’t be so damned arrogant.”

With Trump as our President, the EU is going to quickly run out of “other people’s money*”

* OURS.


24 posted on 07/09/2018 12:27:53 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Olog-hai

While we are talking cars.. why cant we have the 6 cyl bmw that blew the prius out of the water for fuel economy? In comfort. Crony capitalism.


25 posted on 07/09/2018 1:52:48 AM PDT by momincombatboots (No Wall, No Way 2018)
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To: Olog-hai

Let it be known that if we are attacked, we will react collectively and we will react firmly,” Le Maire said. …
OOOO...........Im scared


26 posted on 07/09/2018 2:51:12 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Olog-hai
I'm embarrassed to admit that I buy German cars...just bought one recently.As for the rest of Europe...one of the meds I'm on is made in Ireland but apart from that I have no economic connection to that sad,cowardly continent.
27 posted on 07/09/2018 3:27:46 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: libertylover

Even FIAT’s are a bit better.


28 posted on 07/09/2018 6:59:01 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
That’s exactly what it was created to be. And this is going back to the postwar years.
In the pro-Adenauer press, including the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Christ und Welt, the Deutsche Zeitung of Stuttgart, editorials have been written assuring the Russians that Dr. [Konrad] Adenauer’s policy aims to create the security necessary for both the Germans and the Russians, and that this can only be brought about after Germany had become a third power factor which could employ its influence in such a way as to deter the United States “from starting a preventive war.” Thus, while in the short run the Bonn Government aims to create a United Europe, it hopes ultimately to reach a solid understanding with the Soviets at the expense of the United States.

It is true, of course, that in the person of Dr. Adenauer, the West has been led to believe that the Bonn Government is deeply devoted to the furtherance of the common welfare of the West. But these estimates of Dr. Adenauer and his diplomacy are based on superficial evidence and ignore the fact that Dr. Adenauer was in the past a fanatical believer in the pan-German gospel that the Fatherland should rule Europe and the world. It is, therefore, no accident that the Ribbentrop diplomats and the Haushofer geopoliticians should be his chief advisors. They are prepared to create the Third Power Bloc under German domination through the financial help of the United States, and then turn around and make their final bargain with Moscow. …

— T.H. Tetens, “Germany Plots with the Kremlin” (1953), pp. 7-8
The EU has not changed from those years all the way down to today. And in a lot of ways, neither has Russia.
29 posted on 07/09/2018 8:38:18 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Yardstick
The EU auto tariff is four times bigger than ours: 10% versus 2.5%.

The EU must be (well, they are) stupid crazy with that tariff spat. Other than the odd Jeep or Corvette you see almost no US cars on European roads. They could pay the US a bonus (negative tariff) for the imports and still be way ahead by avoiding a higher US tariff on Euro cars...

30 posted on 07/09/2018 9:24:08 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: vette6387

Yaaayyy! I voted for that!! :-)


31 posted on 07/09/2018 9:34:24 AM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: Olog-hai

You favor us staying in NATO? Why? When was the last time any one of those countries showed us an ounce of respect or lifted a finger to help us? Every one of them, especially Merkel and May are the first out of the box to condemn the US, no mater what we do.

How long do you think it will be until our military bases in Britain or Germany are attacked by Europe’s newer citizens?


32 posted on 07/09/2018 9:39:01 AM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: The Deplorable Miss Lemon

If the NATO treaty has found to have been abrogated by the EU (and I suspect there is lots of evidence for that, especially dating back to the Bosnian wars), then Trump’s idea of bilateral treaties/agreements with individual European countries ought to come into play. That can be a factor in uniting the European natives against the “migrants”, but not on the EU’s anti-US basis nor on the EU’s expansionist ambitions.


33 posted on 07/09/2018 10:10:29 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

I would much rather President Trump negotiate treaties with individual nations rather than the EU as a whole.

As President Trump has said so many of our so-called “friends” have treated us so poorly over the years that now they believe it is their right to do so.

It is time to move on and find new more useful allies. There are many who would welcome us, Poland being one of them.


34 posted on 07/09/2018 10:23:43 AM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: Olog-hai; kosciusko51

If US tariffs are bad for the US economy, why is no one discussing why country X’s current and retaliatory tariffs are bad for X’s economy?

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3669470/posts?page=5#5

Thanks tO: kosciusko51 for this anti tarriff shredding reality!


35 posted on 07/09/2018 11:08:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Trump: "Families of American citizens murdered by illegals are permanently separated from them!)
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To: Olog-hai; kosciusko51

If US tariffs are bad for the US economy, why is no one discussing why country X’s current and retaliatory tariffs are bad for X’s economy?

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3669470/posts?page=5#5

Thanks to: kosciusko51 for this anti tarriff shredding reality!


36 posted on 07/09/2018 11:11:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Trump: "Families of American citizens murdered by illegals are permanently separated from them!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Even Merkel’s essentially acknowledged this, per the OP here. They wanted to fight and win a trade war against the US quietly, with the US laying down and dying instead of fighting back, and what with the US’ first strike back actually working, they’re panicking.

One thing that I feel would make a decisive blow is to put a repeal of the Sixteenth Amendment on top of the tariffs, but what RINOs would go for such a proposal? although I suspect a majority of states would be all for such a thing.


37 posted on 07/09/2018 11:19:01 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

They won’t say it, but like most liberals the EU supports such tariff imbalances because the U.S. is “too rich” and “too successful” and use it as a means to tax the rich so to speak.


38 posted on 07/09/2018 1:44:44 PM PDT by 3Quartets
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