Posted on 07/12/2018 5:07:12 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
In his NATO news conference today, President Trump held President Obama responsible for permitting Russia to encroach on Crimea, and said:
“Long before I got here, President Obama allowed that to happen. That was on his watch, not on my watch. People like to say, oh, Crimea but the fact is they built bridges to Crimea; they just opened a big bridge that was started years ago, they built I think a submarine port, substantially added billions of dollars.
“So, that was on Barack Obama’s watch. That was not on Trump’s watch. Would I have allowed it to happen? No, I would not have allowed it to happen.”
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Most of Pres. Trump’s news conference today focused on his efforts to get NATO members to increase their defense spending.
So this important kernel might not have received sufficient attention: Trump squarely—and fairly—points out that Russian encroachment on Crimea happened on Obama’s watch.
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To bring up the whole Crimea thing, and the Ukraine ‘mess’...one needs to go back to the dialog by the EU and how they created the mess in the first place. The EU owns the whole encroachment. Obama just blundered into it and walked around afterwards....asking if he could help in some special way.
“Obama just blundered into it and walked around afterwards....asking if he could help in some special way.”
I think he proposed a drumming circle, to be followed by a rousing chorus of Kumbaya. ;-)
How would he have stopped it?
So Trump would have enslaved the people in Crimea against their will?
Just kidding. You raise a fair question.
Doesn’t matter.
The issue is moot.
Crimea was surrendered by the West and face was saved by preventing russian incursion into the Ukraine.
Crimea is afterall Russia
It’s true that Obama blundered into Crimea - because his state department initated and funded the coup in Ukraine that made the self-determination of Crimea inevitable.
Trump wouldn’t have started a bloody coup in Ukraine. I certainly believe that.
The issue is moot.
Just curious.
It doesn’t matter and there is no answer to a hypothetical question
> the issue is moot
It is now! He totally dismisses the entire thing like a boss! Brilliant. Crimea is Russian, has been until the Soviets gave it away. They must have been drunk at the time.
Comeon, Don...don’t we get enough bullshit already from the swamp?
< How would he have stopped it? <
Putin took Crimea away from the Ukraine. But Crimea was historically part of Russia, and not the Ukraine (the Supreme Soviet of the USSR simply gave Crimea to the Ukraine in 1954).
And today about 65% of Crimeans are Russian. Only about 15% are Ukrainian.
So while it’s important for the US - and the world - to stand up to Putin, Crimea is probably not the place to do it. There’s no obvious “crime” here.
Now, on the other hand, if Putin should move into the Baltic States...
It’s not ours to allow or prevent. Getting involved in that would have been foolish.
Crimea has been Russian since the days of Catherine the Great. Russia has fought at least two wars over the Crimea. The Crimea is not a hill to die on.
“Crimea was surrendered by the West and face was saved by preventing russian incursion into the Ukraine.”
Preventing incursion into Ukraine? Tell that to the thousands and thousands of people killed in Eastern Ukraine.
You can’t. They were murdered during the Russian “incursion” as were the hundreds on that Dutch airliner shot down by the same “green little” Russkies with no insignias on their uniforms.
SMH, this isn’t short term memory; it’s short term present.
There simply is no chance that Russia would have allowed Sevastopol to become a NATO navy base because of a uke coup.
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