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Prof. Walter Williams: Shooting Ourselves in the Foot -- Here's a Better Alternative to Tariffs
Frontpage Mag ^ | 07/17/2018 | Walter Williams

Posted on 07/17/2018 7:50:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/17/2018 7:50:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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But I disagree. The point of tariffs, from our point of view, is to eliminate or lower tariffs already imposed by our trading partners. They already put tariffs on our goods. Trump says, take yours down and we’ll take ours down. But we had to put some in place to be able to make that offer.

Since they sell more to us than we sell to them, they can’t really hurt us by further raising tariffs on us. At some point they have no choice but to make a deal. Or, we simply get the same product from somewhere else.


2 posted on 07/17/2018 7:56:20 AM PDT by marron
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To: SeekAndFind

So his argument is, it is okay that we send a lot of our money overseas to purchase products, because those foreign companies use that money to purchase ownership in US companies?


3 posted on 07/17/2018 7:59:39 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Higher prices in Canada pay for all the socialized “goodies” they love... until they start complaining about the pricing and taxes...

Perhaps they too, think somebody else is paying for it all... Does the idiocy ever end?


4 posted on 07/17/2018 7:59:55 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: SeekAndFind
When voluntary exchange occurs, it means that both parties are better off in their own estimation — not Trump's estimation or General Motors' estimation. I'd like to hear the moral case for third-party interference with such an exchange.

Well that's sort of like Plato's Ideal Plane, Professor. It doesn't actually exist in the real world. Third parties are ALWAYS butting-in on these exchanges, and likely they always will. Trump is trying to arm-wrestle them into accepting more even terms.




5 posted on 07/17/2018 8:00:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Higher prices in Canada pay for all the socialized “goodies” they love... until they start complaining about the pricing and taxes...

I lived in Michigan, very close to the border. At the time our sales tax was 4%, while Ontario was paying 15% between sales and GST taxes. You could not get into a mall on weekends because the parking lots were full of Ontario plates. They bought everything here and then smuggled it home.


6 posted on 07/17/2018 8:01:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: marron

Canada is the equivalent of a remora that attaches itself to the side of a shark. The American “shark” needs to rub off the Canadian remora and see just how long it survives without the ability to suck the life out of us. The imposition of tariffs when you are the big customer, is just a means to get the other guy’s attention. Actually, this goes for the rest of the world for that matter. We have been the world’s sucker for so long, we’ve forgotten just what economic power we have.


7 posted on 07/17/2018 8:05:15 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: SeekAndFind
Tariffs raise tremendous revenue, are voluntary and protect US industry. win - win - win.

"I keep asking the establishment shills why America has some moral obligation to tolerate foreign countries imposing higher tariffs upon us than we impose upon them. Seems facially unfair, right? So, there’s got to be a really good reason because how can you support our working people facing a higher obstacle to trade than the foreigners do? I’m just wondering what’s wrong with a level playing field. Fair is fair, right? But I never get a good answer."

Link here.

8 posted on 07/17/2018 8:06:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: SeekAndFind

Walter Williams should be on Trump’s team. Thomas Sowell too.


9 posted on 07/17/2018 8:07:10 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: SeekAndFind

bmp


10 posted on 07/17/2018 8:07:24 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Canadian dairy cartel limits production to keep prices high. That is all.


11 posted on 07/17/2018 8:08:42 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: Mr. K
Walter Williams should be on Trump’s team. Thomas Sowell too.

Dear God please keep these Free Traitors™ away from the White House!

12 posted on 07/17/2018 8:08:57 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: marron

Yes, there is good and bad about tariffs.

They impost 270% on our dairy. There must be some tariff that would hit them hard, STRATEGIC tariffs, that we could later easily remove.


13 posted on 07/17/2018 8:10:00 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This retaliation policy is both cruel and not very smart. It's as if you and I were in a rowboat out at sea and I shot a hole in my end of the boat. What should be your response? If you were Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross or Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin, you might advise retaliating by shooting a hole in your end of the boat.

Even though I really like they guy, this is disingenuous of Williams. Yes, of course tariffs hurt American consumers, but what he purposely leaves out here is that they also hurt other nations trying to sell goods here. The real argument is "Who does it hurt more and can the hurting stop the foreign nation from imposing tariffs on American exports?". I wish his column had addressed that.

14 posted on 07/17/2018 8:10:18 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: SeekAndFind

Free trade is great when all the participants in the equation are good actors, well intentioned, etc.

It doesn’t work when they aren’t. You wouldn’t sell a gun to a person you knew had a high likelihood to use it against you, no matter what price he offers to pay.

And that’s the probelm with the “capital account surpluses”, foreign entities aren’t all investing in the US for our benefit, they are doing so they can influence us politicially for their benefit.


15 posted on 07/17/2018 8:10:41 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: SeekAndFind

Dollar for Dollar. If they dont agree, then impose a tariff.


16 posted on 07/17/2018 8:10:54 AM PDT by crz
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The 30 year globalist experiment in "Free Trade" is an abject failure. Why? because the rest of the of world didn't play along and used the USA like a cheap whore.
17 posted on 07/17/2018 8:11:53 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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Yes, of course tariffs hurt American consumers,

In the short term perhaps, but who would they help in the long term?

18 posted on 07/17/2018 8:13:15 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

RE: So his argument is, it is okay that we send a lot of our money overseas to purchase products, because those foreign companies use that money to purchase ownership in US companies?

If I understand him, that is PART of his argument. His response to that would then be — What’s wrong with foreign businessmen and investors owning American companies? Don’t Americans do the same when they buy stocks in Toyota, or Alibaba if not directly, via International Mutual Funds?

And his next rhetorical question would be this — would foreign investors be so stupid as to allow American companies whose stocks that own to do badly so that they lose money?

His point, if I understand him is this -— investors are investors regardless of whether they are Americans or Asians or Canadians. They have a vested interest in seeing the companies that they own DO WELL. How is that a bad thing?


19 posted on 07/17/2018 8:13:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
How is that a bad thing?

Go walk around the 55,000 factories closed since 1999 and the surrounding devastated small towns for your answer. North Carolina would be a great place for your education to start.

20 posted on 07/17/2018 8:16:26 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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