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Deep State Determined to Undermine Trump Using Mueller Indictments
Newsmax ^ | 17 Jul 2018 | Ron Paul

Posted on 07/17/2018 8:15:56 AM PDT by mandaladon

The term “deep state” has been so over-used in the past few years that it may seem meaningless. It has become standard practice to label one’s political adversaries as representing the “deep state” as a way of avoiding the defense of one’s positions. President Trump has often blamed the “deep state” for his political troubles. Trump supporters have created big conspiracies involving the “deep state” to explain why the president places neocons in key positions or fails to fulfill his campaign promises.

But the “deep state” is no vast and secret conspiracy theory. The deep state is real, it operates out in the open, and it is far from monolithic. The deep state is simply the permanent, unelected government that continues to expand its power regardless of how Americans vote.

There are factions of the deep state that are pleased with President Trump’s policies, and in fact we might say that President Trump represents some factions of the deep state.

Other factions of the deep state are determined to undermine any of President Trump’s actions they perceive as threatening. Any move toward peace with Russia is surely something they feel to be threatening. There are hundreds of billions of reasons — otherwise known as dollars — why the Beltway military-industrial complex is terrified of peace breaking out with Russia and will do whatever it takes to prevent that from happening.

That is why Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s indictment on Friday of 12 Russian military intelligence officers for allegedly interfering in the 2016 U.S. presidential election should immediately raise some very serious questions.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coup; deepstate; mueller; ronpaul; sabotage; trump
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First the obvious: after more than a year of investigations which have publicly revealed zero collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, why drop this bombshell of an allegation at the end of the news cycle on the last business day before the historic Trump/Putin meeting in Helsinki? The indictment could not have been announced a month ago or in two weeks? Is it not suspicious that now no one is talking about reducing tensions with Russia but is all of a sudden — thanks to Special Counsel Robert Mueller — talking about increasing tensions?

It is interesting that one of the Russian companies indicted by Mueller earlier this year surprised the world by actually entering a “not guilty” plea and demanding to see Mueller’s evidence. The Special Counsel proceeded to file several motions to delay the hand-over of his evidence. What does Mueller have to hide?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I recommend reading the whole article...

1 posted on 07/17/2018 8:15:56 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon
There are factions of the deep state that are pleased with President Trump’s policies, and in fact we might say that President Trump represents some factions of the deep state.

Really Ron? Can you give us some examples because NONE come to my mind...

2 posted on 07/17/2018 8:19:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: mandaladon

Did Mueller prove anything about anyone yet ?


3 posted on 07/17/2018 8:20:17 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: mandaladon

4 posted on 07/17/2018 8:22:29 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: butlerweave

“Did Mueller prove anything about anyone yet?”

He proved you can indict twelve ham sandwiches with some Russian dressing.


5 posted on 07/17/2018 8:26:53 AM PDT by Hartmann
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To: mandaladon
THe 12 Russian indictments were public indictments, the intentions were :

1) An anti-Trump political stunt(worked)
2) Warn those Russians (if they exist) so they can avoid going to court where Muellers team would have to produce evidence
3) The media treats all these indictments as convictions and all accusations as facts.

Notice other indictments are sealed until the arrests are made.

6 posted on 07/17/2018 8:28:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs ('Equal protection' only applies to illegals not you!)
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To: RightGeek

Lisa Page is also pursuing and immunity deal.
Truthful testimony for no charges of any kind.


7 posted on 07/17/2018 8:31:32 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: mandaladon

“The term “deep state” has been so over-used in the past few years that it may seem meaningless.”

Two years ago no one knew what the deep state was. Now everyone does and it’s a household word, thanks to DJT.


8 posted on 07/17/2018 8:31:33 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Trump: America First. Obama: Quran First. Clintons: Our Money First)
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To: mandaladon

The anti-Trumpers hardly ever use the word “collusion” any more. They don’t have to say it. It has been imprinted in the minds of the gullible, so that when they hear “Russian meddling” they also hear “Russian collusion.”


9 posted on 07/17/2018 8:32:46 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: Rennes Templar

Rosensweasel hijacked the Summit agenda with Putin with his little show Friday. It was subversive and purposeful. Yet not one word of criticism for the obvious manipulation. If Sessions had a monicum of decency he would have fired him immediately. He set up the man who made him AG, the level of disloyalty is breathtaking.


10 posted on 07/17/2018 8:38:09 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: mandaladon

It is good to see Ron Paul supporting Trump.


11 posted on 07/17/2018 8:38:39 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: mandaladon

Putin mentioned the same thing: one of the Russian companies accused hired American lawyers and is ready to confront Mueller in court. That was probably very unexpected, and might explain why these new indictments are all against individuals rather than companies; Mueller figures individuals won’t have the same resources.


12 posted on 07/17/2018 8:40:13 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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That's the biggest problem I have with all this crap. The total incompetence of our intelligence agencies to stop it, if it really happened, and the timing of all their announcements/indictments, that seem to be a PHYSOPS.

The DNC's computers, hacked into TWICE, were never examined by the Govt....and yet they take a private company's word for it that Russian's hacked it.

They keep telling us that Russian's hacked something but it didn't change votes....or the outcome of the election........while they keep ramping up the hysteria.... like the Russians assassinated candidates, or something.

They charge Americans for crimes, that have NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA, and expect us to believe that proves Russia collusion?

Even worse, these unelected bozos, arrogantly tell the duly elected Congress, who has oversight over them, to suck eggs?

So no, I don't trust them about this business. It's time to bring the evidence to a court of law and PROVE IT.

13 posted on 07/17/2018 8:46:39 AM PDT by TXSearcher (Interesting times we live in...........)
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...that seem to be a PHYSOPS.

Is that a person with one eye in the middle of his forehead?

14 posted on 07/17/2018 8:51:08 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Antifa and Social Justice Warriors (SJWs) = SturmAbteilung)
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To: BlueLancer
Is that a person with one eye in the middle of his forehead?

Sorry, I should have spell checked before I posted.

15 posted on 07/17/2018 8:58:06 AM PDT by TXSearcher (Interesting times we live in...........)
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To: mandaladon

Russia will no more hand over its cyber folks to us than we would ours to them.

No evidence can be presented due to national security, methods and means.

Mueller knows this.


16 posted on 07/17/2018 9:04:31 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: gibsonguy

Sessions is a disgrace for allowing this to continue. He’s either being blackmailed or is an abject coward.


17 posted on 07/17/2018 9:25:02 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: Rennes Templar
Two years ago no one knew what the deep state was. Now everyone does and it’s a household word, thanks to DJT.

These same cretins have been called many things. They are basically the same transnational socialists that have been undermining America's interests since before WWI. "Deep State" is just a new name used by the establish media to camouflage what they really are.

18 posted on 07/17/2018 12:01:51 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: LongWayHome
Sessions is a disgrace for allowing this to continue. He’s either being blackmailed or is an abject coward.

He's a part of it, and always has been.

19 posted on 07/17/2018 12:03:41 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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I’m afraid you are right. I always respected his work against the third world invasion & his push-back against amnesty.

The deep state must have found something awful in his past, or he was always controlled opposition.


20 posted on 07/17/2018 1:11:22 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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