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First the obvious: after more than a year of investigations which have publicly revealed zero collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, why drop this bombshell of an allegation at the end of the news cycle on the last business day before the historic Trump/Putin meeting in Helsinki? The indictment could not have been announced a month ago or in two weeks? Is it not suspicious that now no one is talking about reducing tensions with Russia but is all of a sudden — thanks to Special Counsel Robert Mueller — talking about increasing tensions?

It is interesting that one of the Russian companies indicted by Mueller earlier this year surprised the world by actually entering a “not guilty” plea and demanding to see Mueller’s evidence. The Special Counsel proceeded to file several motions to delay the hand-over of his evidence. What does Mueller have to hide?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I recommend reading the whole article...

1 posted on 07/17/2018 8:15:56 AM PDT by mandaladon
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There are factions of the deep state that are pleased with President Trump’s policies, and in fact we might say that President Trump represents some factions of the deep state.

Really Ron? Can you give us some examples because NONE come to my mind...

2 posted on 07/17/2018 8:19:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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Did Mueller prove anything about anyone yet ?


3 posted on 07/17/2018 8:20:17 AM PDT by butlerweave
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4 posted on 07/17/2018 8:22:29 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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THe 12 Russian indictments were public indictments, the intentions were :

1) An anti-Trump political stunt(worked)
2) Warn those Russians (if they exist) so they can avoid going to court where Muellers team would have to produce evidence
3) The media treats all these indictments as convictions and all accusations as facts.

Notice other indictments are sealed until the arrests are made.

6 posted on 07/17/2018 8:28:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs ('Equal protection' only applies to illegals not you!)
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“The term “deep state” has been so over-used in the past few years that it may seem meaningless.”

Two years ago no one knew what the deep state was. Now everyone does and it’s a household word, thanks to DJT.


8 posted on 07/17/2018 8:31:33 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Trump: America First. Obama: Quran First. Clintons: Our Money First)
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The anti-Trumpers hardly ever use the word “collusion” any more. They don’t have to say it. It has been imprinted in the minds of the gullible, so that when they hear “Russian meddling” they also hear “Russian collusion.”


9 posted on 07/17/2018 8:32:46 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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It is good to see Ron Paul supporting Trump.


11 posted on 07/17/2018 8:38:39 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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Putin mentioned the same thing: one of the Russian companies accused hired American lawyers and is ready to confront Mueller in court. That was probably very unexpected, and might explain why these new indictments are all against individuals rather than companies; Mueller figures individuals won’t have the same resources.


12 posted on 07/17/2018 8:40:13 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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That's the biggest problem I have with all this crap. The total incompetence of our intelligence agencies to stop it, if it really happened, and the timing of all their announcements/indictments, that seem to be a PHYSOPS.

The DNC's computers, hacked into TWICE, were never examined by the Govt....and yet they take a private company's word for it that Russian's hacked it.

They keep telling us that Russian's hacked something but it didn't change votes....or the outcome of the election........while they keep ramping up the hysteria.... like the Russians assassinated candidates, or something.

They charge Americans for crimes, that have NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA, and expect us to believe that proves Russia collusion?

Even worse, these unelected bozos, arrogantly tell the duly elected Congress, who has oversight over them, to suck eggs?

So no, I don't trust them about this business. It's time to bring the evidence to a court of law and PROVE IT.

13 posted on 07/17/2018 8:46:39 AM PDT by TXSearcher (Interesting times we live in...........)
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Russia will no more hand over its cyber folks to us than we would ours to them.

No evidence can be presented due to national security, methods and means.

Mueller knows this.


16 posted on 07/17/2018 9:04:31 AM PDT by fruser1
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