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Law of Self Defense: A Self-Defense Cascade of Failure
Legal Insurrection ^ | 7-18-2018 | Andrew Branca

Posted on 07/18/2018 4:38:59 PM PDT by servo1969

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To: servo1969

He made a mistake confronting the burglars instead of calling the police? Duhhh...He was there the police weren’t. “Hold on dirtbags, I’m calling the police...” Yeah, that’ll work...NOT! When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.


21 posted on 07/18/2018 6:45:47 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: servo1969
It was probably the firing at the fleeing vehicle that did him in. Not even cops get away with that.

So this guy called the cops himself? I mean, I can see setting up an ambush for a couple of guys who've already ripped you off, but then after your ambush works and you get a piece of them, you call the cops? Why?

22 posted on 07/18/2018 8:16:11 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: sergeantdave
Re: “Ninety percent of so-called conservatives don’t get it.”

Most Conservatives also don't get that massive LEGAL immigration is political suicide.

We have close to 25 million naturalized voting citizens in the USA, and we are currently adding 700,000 more each year.

As a group, those folks vote 70%-80% for the Democrat Party.

We are quickly reaching the point where it does not matter how hard Conservatives work to elect Second Amendment candidates.

In the end, basic math always wins.

23 posted on 07/18/2018 9:58:46 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen; sergeantdave

"...Conservatives don’t get it..."


If we managed a freeze on all immigration we would see a remarkable improvement in day-to-day life.
Coupled with deportation of illegal immigrants it would restore borders, language, culture, and typical order.


24 posted on 07/18/2018 10:37:45 PM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: servo1969

There is an entire army of prosecutors around these days who love nothing more than screwing gun owners on some petty technicality who were protecting themselves, their families and/or their property, but didn’t cross every t and dot every I.

You have to be very, very careful.

Say nothing. Get a lawyer.


25 posted on 07/19/2018 12:18:05 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: yarddog
"...at the time, Florida did not have a “stand your ground” law and he was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to 20 years."

Florida had a self-defense law. It's not clear from that story how "Stand Your Ground" would have helped him.

26 posted on 07/19/2018 12:28:10 AM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

I agree that it was self defense.

The court tho said that after the guy emptied his gun, Grandpa was no longer in danger and should have just left.


27 posted on 07/19/2018 4:44:54 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Hodar; servo1969
In a perfect world, Sheets would be free to hunt and kill the burglars at his leisure. Criminals in the commission of a crime should forfeit all protections of the law. Break into a home and steal someone’s property? Expect to get killed.

In the old West, there were outlaws. That is people who did something against the law were outside the law. Simple, yeah. Break the law, become an outlaw, forfeit any protection under the law. Steal a horse, get caught by some law abiding citizens, and swing from a tree. The citizens broke no laws, the hanged guy had no protection, under the law he was a non-entity. Same as a cockroach. Who came up with the idea that an outlaw had rights, that is a horrible misreading of the law.

28 posted on 07/19/2018 5:21:01 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: FLT-bird
Say “I feared for my life. It was self defense. I wish to speak to my attorney”.

Saying "it was self defense" can be seen as a confession that it was you who shot the assailants. Say NOTHING beyond "I feared for my life. I wish to speak to my attorney”. Say nothing that can be taken as an admission that you DID anything.

Put the prosecutor in the position where he has to prove you did something wrong, without assisting him with admissions.

29 posted on 07/19/2018 5:38:52 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It rubs the rainbow on itÂ’s skin or it gets the diversity again!")
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To: servo1969

Morally, he was in the right.
Legally? He was in no danger. He pursued the criminals into the house (which was no longer his).
I don’t think most law on self-defense actually allows the defender to pursue criminals, not even castle doctrine and stand your ground. Maybe if it had actually been his house, it would have been okay, but I wouldn’t test it.
Besides, lawyers and cops hate it when you take business away from them.


30 posted on 07/19/2018 5:58:30 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: MeganC

Ask anyone who’s ever been the victim of a burglary. Most will tell you that the police DO NOTHING except write up a report. Most cops have ZERO INTEREST in protecting your property or recovering your property, or catching the perps.

3 cops in my family. So yes, some cops are good, but far too many don’t care.


31 posted on 07/19/2018 6:48:12 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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