Posted on 07/21/2018 3:13:13 PM PDT by Lazamataz
It was a CVA. Not expensive but not junk either.
Yes, that was the name. They had kits for many different muzzleloaders. Not the highest of quality but a good learning tool.
Air rifles next
Never trust a leftist. Never trust a gun grabber. Pardon me for repeating myself.
They are fond of saying, “But the most advanced weapons available when the Second Amendment was written were muskets!” Well, muzzleloaders ARE MUSKETS! And these Communist maniacs want to BAN THEM ALSO!!!
I put together one of those kits and made a mess of it.
I gave it to a guy I worked with. He told me that I had not really hurt it. He then proceeded to turn it into a work of art. I could not believe it was the same gun.
I just looked online.. No CVA kits but another brand has the Kentucky pistol kit...$209.00 Wow.
Mail order doesn't worry them. There's credit card and shipping records.
Being able to buy one for cash at a gun show or regular gun store, leaving no paperwork trail -- THAT worries them.
It you pay attention to when one lets slip comments favorable of gulags and reeducation camps you may realize that more of them will agree with that assessment than disagree than even they realize.
Only they mean it.
It’s not about guns but punishing gun owners, some of whom may even be Trump supporters. (GASP!!) The left is consumed by hate foranyone and everyone who is not in lock step.
Amazon has them for 9 or 10 dollars.
The Founders could never have foreseen the power of muzzleloading rifles...
I have the TC Encore Pro Hunter Predator camo
So many mass shootings of school children have been perpetrated with muzzle-loading sport rifles. Laz, you must hate children. And women. And minorities. And dogs.
Some of them. In the day, muskets were smooth bore military long arms. Some of the Colonists used them in the Rev War, most used long barreled smooth bore fouling pieces which could be loaded with either shot or round balls. A number of Colonists, mainly from the backwoods, used longrifles, with rifled barrels. Most replicas made today are copies of Pennsylvania or Kentucky type longrifles. Very few real muskets out there now.
.72 caliber double barrel Pedersoli Kodiak will have ‘em filling their pants!
“...I suppose a .68 would scare the pants of them.” [tet68, post 6]
I will confess a 68 would give me something of turn. Because there aren’t any, unless someone has commissioned a custom piece or two.
69 cal (0.690 inch nominal or diameter) was the official US caliber for standard-issue small arms from the beginning, until 1855. Before the beginning actually, when the French began selling used muskets in their national caliber (69) to the fledgling United States through false-front business entities and fake end-user organizations … by the time the Americans beat Gentleman Johnny at the two Battles of Saratoga, muskets of French pattern (chiefly the M1763 made by the French state arsenal at Charleville - hence the common name for them in America) were there in large numbers and became the preferred piece for US issue.
When the new nation set up arms manufactories at Springfield, Massachusetts and Harpers Ferry, Virginia, the very first products were smoothbore muskets of 69 cal, almost identical with the French muskets furnished earlier.
The first official US rifle was the M1803 built at Harpers Ferry. Soon, official rifle caliber was 54 (0.540 inch bore diameter); the dual-caliber arrangement (54 for rifles, 69 for muskets) persisted for decades, until the adoption of the M1855 Rifle-Musket in 58 caliber.
But the 69 cal arms did not vanish instant. Many thousands stand of arms had been stored away in armories; a great many originally flintlock had been converted to percussion. Some saw issue early in the American Civil War; some were rifled to take the 69 cal hollow-base bullet of minie pattern - a truly formidable projectile weighing some 730 grains made of soft lead.
A number of US rifles were reamed out from 54 cal to 58 cal, and re-rifled, to match the then-new rifle-muskets. Standardizing the ammunition helped.
Some muzzle-loading authorities declare the 0.680-inch diameter round ball to be the proper bullet for 69 cal smoothbore, but after a couple shots, there will be enough fouling to cause difficulty in seating that big a ball down on the charge. Original French loadings used a ball of 0.627 inch diameter, to facilitate loading even into a heavily fouled musket barrel. Charge of that period was 189 grains of black powder.
Some experimenters have obtained good results from modern replica 69 cal muskets using 0.662-inch diameter (nominal 16 gauge), loaded atop sleeved wads for 16-ga shotshells.
I will give up my Lemat Revolver when you pry my cold dead fingers from it.
Back when I was heavily into black powder, I decided that .50 cal. was the best all around.
Round balls were fine for deer and anything smaller. You could use the heavy long bullets with beeswax in the grooves for heavy stuff.
I used mainly Pyrodex as some of the newer substitutes were not around back then.
I had a Sile .54 copy of the Sharps. It was the model using caps. It was really pretty, but not quite as well made as the ones made in Montanan. Mine was made in Italy. I could see no advantage of the .54 over the .50. Either one would do the job.
When I say “do the job”, I would never hunt dangerous game with a muzzle loader etc. without a modern backup.
LeMats are sexy. I would love to have someone produce them again in modern calibers with modern metallurgy.
I would buy one in a second.
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