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A leaked photo shows that China is building a supercarrier that could rival the US
SF Chronicle / Yahoo / SF Gate ^ | 12 hours ago | SF Gate.com

Posted on 07/28/2018 2:52:31 AM PDT by cba123

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A leaked photo shows that China is building a supercarrier that could rival the US' Nimitz-class carriers

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China has grand ambitions for a world-class navy, and is reportedly building two more aircraft carriers with enhanced capabilities that would make them among the world's most powerful navies. But it's unclear what China ultimately intends to do with them. Is it for prestige? To project power? To protect its interests overseas? We asked two naval experts to find out more.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: america; armsbuildup; china; redchina; usnavy
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The Chinese shipbuilder that's constructing Beijing's third aircraft carrier, Type 002, leaked an artist's impression of that carrier on social media in late June that heightened intrigue about China's naval ambitions before quickly taking it down.

(please see link, for full story)

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Sorry there are two links at this story:

The first one from Yahoo / SF Chronicle, posted 12 hours ago.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/5ed82ca6-5e1b-3c34-911c-4cb2076bc554/a-leaked-photo-shows-that.html

Then the linked article, is from SF Gate:

https://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/A-leaked-photo-shows-that-China-is-building-a-13111835.php

1 posted on 07/28/2018 2:52:31 AM PDT by cba123
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To: cba123

Two links at this story:

The first one from Yahoo / SF Chronicle, posted 12 hours ago.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/5ed82ca6-5e1b-3c34-911c-4cb2076bc554/a-leaked-photo-shows-that.html

Then the linked article, is from SF Gate:

https://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/A-leaked-photo-shows-that-China-is-building-a-13111835.php


2 posted on 07/28/2018 2:53:19 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

Made with Chinese steel. If it lives down to its reputation catostrauphic failure ultimately will occur.


3 posted on 07/28/2018 3:28:09 AM PDT by LibertyOh
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To: cba123

When a diverse college graduate receives a degree in Fluff Studies and a real college student earns a degree in Engineering, the engineer has something of value that leads to a real job and a real paycheck. The Fluff Studies graduate asks, “would you like fries with that”.

Similarly, building a ship with a large flight deck will not give the People Liberation Army Navy the aviation capabilities that we earned over 80+ years of flight operations. I’m not in any way worried about a PLAN carrier.


4 posted on 07/28/2018 3:36:36 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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I love it that the article stated they asked naval experts what they thought. Brought to mind Elmo talking to Mr. Noodle and then asking Baby on Elmo’s World


5 posted on 07/28/2018 3:40:23 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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So they’re making this target, BIG. Thanks China!


6 posted on 07/28/2018 3:42:28 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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“......Similarly, building a ship with a large flight deck will not give the People Liberation Army Navy the aviation capabilities that we earned over 80+ years of flight operations. I’m not in any way worried about a PLAN carrier.”

Exactly. It would take generations for china to build a “world class navy” being the men, not the machines. They are just building expensive targets.......


7 posted on 07/28/2018 3:49:22 AM PDT by JParris
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To: cba123

China cannot project power. They can infiltrate. But infiltration is corrupting. Their infiltrators realize they serving a corrupt facade.


8 posted on 07/28/2018 3:50:29 AM PDT by ghannonf18
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No doubt much of it is from espionage theft but yeah, will remain hype to me until built and tested.


9 posted on 07/28/2018 4:10:06 AM PDT by cranked
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Good for them... now if they could field a reliable aircraft for it. The J11s as bad copies of SU27/30 are falling apart and they are scrambling for a replacement such as their J35


10 posted on 07/28/2018 4:13:36 AM PDT by lavaroise
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A carrier without aircraft is worthless!
11 posted on 07/28/2018 4:23:53 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: JParris

The problem is while China doesn’t have the experience with carrier operations the US has, the “diversification” of the US military may tend to level the playing field.

The lack of commitment to the training of personnel by the previous Administration has led to some very serious errors by naval officers over the past couple of years. It was RARE to hear of ship-to-ship contact prior to the Obama years.

While I’m sure there were some incidents, it seems they happen more frequently now and without an Administration willing to commit resources to training, spare parts, and re-supply, this could impact operations of the US military for years to come. Plus, couple that with a continuing presence in the Middle East, the fatigue factor I would bet is pretty high right now.


12 posted on 07/28/2018 4:44:45 AM PDT by offduty
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I’m guessing these carriers are very expensive to make. And their economy depends on the US buying Chinese products....hmm...


13 posted on 07/28/2018 4:50:56 AM PDT by trublu
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That’s what they do, think long term.


14 posted on 07/28/2018 4:53:35 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Pollster1

The Chinese engineer will have cheated his way through school.


15 posted on 07/28/2018 4:54:38 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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The trick is how good are the damage control features and the training of the crew in at sea repair. This is where the USN excels. You can tell how good a navy is by how seriously they take damage control.


16 posted on 07/28/2018 4:55:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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"Similarly, building a ship with a large flight deck will not give the People Liberation Army Navy the aviation capabilities that we earned over 80+ years of flight operations."

At face value, I totally agree with you. Experience is the one thing you can only get by needing it when you don't have It. Having said that, the American value placed on human life has generally resulted in cautious development over those 80 years (perhaps a bit less so during the exigencies of wartime). The Chinese subscribe to the Stalinist theory of quantity having a quality all its own. They will expend as many aviator and flight deck crew lives as necessary to rapidly gain the experience and apply the lessons learned. As others have noted here as well, lessons the Americans have learned through trial and error, the Chinese will learn through espionage. So, yes, we have invaluable experience in nearly a century of naval aviation which the Chinese do not. But it will not take them a century to catch up.

17 posted on 07/28/2018 4:55:36 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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Gotta love the comment at the SFGate site:

"I've been to WalMart. I'm not worried about Chinese technology."

18 posted on 07/28/2018 4:56:37 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Get in the Spirit! The Spirit of '76!)
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Very "last century".

We're building the Space Force. I wonder what a "Rod from God" would do to a big, fat target like a super duper chinese carrier?

19 posted on 07/28/2018 5:02:20 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: Joe 6-pack

The discussion is focused on hardware.

The question that matters is how much do the young pilots and officers want to suceed? Motivation and repetative training can yield positive results as they learn.


20 posted on 07/28/2018 5:06:20 AM PDT by bert
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